250BB deep middle set, live

[the machine]

1/2 nl deep against super aggro donkey.

about 10 mins ago he plays this hand.

he opens up to 19$ and gets his standard 3 callers. flop 10 high and he gets 250BBs in with A10 after being check raised on the flop. other person has K10.

so hes a no foldem type guy

he opens in late position to 19 and i call out of SB with 77

flop 3 players (60$) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] x[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dont remember card

i check, other guy checks he leads his standard 40 which he does hit or miss.

i make it 150$ total.
1 fold and he calls

turn (360$) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
i check
he bets 150
i call


river 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
i checked dark
he shoves

i have ~220 left.

[tubasteve]

i call

[terp]

seems like a close to optimal line against described aggrodonk (who has air usually), but i'd probably check the river in real time to induce more bluffs.

[the machine]

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i call

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is this like a instacall?

fwiw i snapcalled the turn and he verbally says, "what do you got a set?"

[tubasteve]

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i call

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is this like a instacall?

fwiw i snapcalled the turn and he verbally says, "what do you got a set?"

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i cant see folding in such a huge pot. fwiw, i dont like your turn play. i either donk biggish or c/r

[Keyser.]

This reminds me of a hand I played live at the Wynn where I actually said "I check to induce a bluff" out loud for some reason and an Azn dude went all-in and I folded. He shoved me a bluff. i got pwned

Live poker would be so awesome if it weren't so slow. "He opens for 19" lol. I don't think you can fold here vs. a hyperaggro guy. If your read is correct his bluffing frequency probably goes way up since those are good turns/rivers to bluff at. A lot of top pair/two pair/overpair hands are in his range too.

[the machine]

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i call

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is this like a instacall?

fwiw i snapcalled the turn and he verbally says, "what do you got a set?"

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i cant see folding in such a huge pot. fwiw, i dont like your turn play. i either donk biggish or c/r

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i didnt like it either, but i felt, given our table history together, (ive owned him thus far for about 800 but i run like absolute dog [censored]) a turn lead only gets raised or shoved on by hands that beat me and i force out all the hands i beat. wanted to give him rope to hang himself just incase i was ahead

[ofishstix]

c/r>b/c>c/c imo.
he's agro, you have a set. get it in. live players are so bad he can def get it in with worse if you c/r or b/c.

[the machine]

thx for the responses.

i called, he showed A3cc for the nuts

i really didnt want to c/r AI into the nuts, which i thought was going to happen.

kind of funny side note about the hand. before the flop i said to donkey boy im going to out flop you then you will suck out on me for a really big pot. god it sucks to be so smart sometimes.

[Diamond Lie]

Based on the fact we played at the same table, and we probably played 2 hours or so with this maniac that we can agree on a few things.

Hes obviously a no fold'em guy lol. I was talking to Joe about him last night, and we came to the following conclusions.

He raises 4-5 times per orbit to 16+. He will call any 3-bet with any hand PF, provided its not ridiculously large. He will call any flop bet 60%-70% of the time if you lead out. He will fire if you check to him in a similar frequency if he has position.

The turn is what I really remember distinctly. Because he plays so many hands, he is very passive on the turn. Hands where he will fire on the flop in hopes to take down pots that you completely missed, he will check behind on the turn assuming you have anything a high percentage of the time (since he can't continue with his bluff if he knows you are going to look him up at this point).

This hand he is firing out. You have to ask yourself what range of hands is he making that large type of bet on the turn with. Why is he playing this turn so hard? What hands is he leading out, and just calling a raise with on the flop? A flush draw? TPGK? Straight draw?

I wasn't here for this hand, but you were talking in the hand here. IMO he knows you are very strong here. If he knows you are strong/most likely calling, and is shoving regardless thats huge.

He is shoving the river. I can't remember many hands where he shoved all in on the river w/ this type of line. He will value bet with second best hands here, but not so much a shove.

Based on the lines he took and how aggressive he is playing you have to fold the river here. Tough fold though, because the guy is literally playing every hand.