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Old 10-29-2007, 12:56 PM
Herrigel Herrigel is offline
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Default KK lay down - quick check

Villain is 20/12/2, folds 75% to c-bets, 2500 hands sample
SB is some random TAG, as I am

Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $282.18
BB: $197.80
UTG: $188
Hero (CO): $260.25
BTN: $331.45

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN calls $7, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($23) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $45</font>, SB folds, Hero folds
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

i shove here everytime and if i go broke then i go broke
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

wtf @ folding? I dont get it. Does he have a history of just calling w 88+ here?

I think I can find a fold If he pushes over a 4-bet, but this seems so weak tight.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

good laydown
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

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good laydown

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...because????????????????
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

in position itd be easier to call and re-evaluate, 4bet folding isnt terrible against straightforwards opponents though.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

i think since button has position and 1 person behind him hes less likely to make a light 3bet here
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

i dont think it matters what you do here
if u have 2.5k hands a little more about villain would help though
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

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i dont think it matters what you do here
if u have 2.5k hands a little more about villain would help though

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Most of the hands are datamined, but I guess we played a couple of 100's.
I have no notes on him, which means I didn't notice anything out of line so far.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:19 PM
KingofNits2 KingofNits2 is offline
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Default Re: KK lay down - quick check

jesus christ this makes me puke really really hard. Seriously, NEVER, NEVER,

NEVER NVER NVER NEVER EVER EVER fold here.

NEVER! you hear me?!

A flush draw could do this, an over pair, a total bluff. Seriously dont look at those freakin stats, and just go broke here. Your ahead of their range.

If you fold this, just check flop, or just freakin fold every hand preflop or something.
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