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Old 08-20-2006, 12:53 AM
HEK HEK is offline
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Default Deep bottom boat 25/50

Villian is a loose but pretty solid player. I don't have much knowledge of him except for that and the fact that his stats are 21/9.

This is an easy fold isn't it?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 ($19282.50)
MP3 ($7201)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($11044.19)</font>
Button ($5891)
SB ($3142.56)
BB ($5100)
UTG ($1250)
UTG+1 ($5000)
UTG+2 ($6244)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($14953.28)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $175</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $175, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $150, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($575) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $350</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1400</font>, SB folds, MP1 calls $1050.

Turn: ($3375) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $6066.41</font>
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

ugggg i can't really see you being ahead here (unless he's bluffing). Whatever happened, I bet vomiting was involved.
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Old 08-20-2006, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

Eww. Yeah, looks like a fold. It would be weird for him to take this line for value with a hand you beat, and it would be a pretty crazy bluff. I don't play full ring because I don't like folding boats.
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Old 08-20-2006, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

I can't possibly find myself laying this down after the size of your flop raise. Looks suspicious enough that he likely isn't putting you on as strong of a hand as you have.
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

Does 21/9 really raise 87/76 from MP1 10-handed? Or are you putting him squarely on 88/77?
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

i go broke here with 100 bb stacks no prob. with 200, eh, you say he's loose. I see a fair number of hands you beat making this play, notably kk/aa and 97/57.
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

he may have even slowed down on flop with T9
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Old 08-20-2006, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

Is checking behind on the turn terrible?
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Old 08-20-2006, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

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Is checking behind on the turn terrible?

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yes, because stacks are deep and we want to get the money in
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Old 08-20-2006, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: Deep bottom boat 25/50

Does he have AA/KK/T9 the 37-ish% percent of time you need him to? It seems like he would, but after flop action, he's gotta put you on set at least. i think this is a fold 200bb deep.
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