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Old 10-04-2007, 03:25 AM
Styhn Styhn is offline
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Default Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

I've read about Negreanu's explaination of small ball poker. It seems to be a nice strategy, but what if you sit at a table with three or four maniacs who will call/raise with anything? It doesn't seem to apply at these sort of games. Or does it?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

I'd really be interested to see if anybody can come up with a smallball strategy against maniacs because I don't see a way to do it.

Personally, I'd buy in short and play an aggressive shortstack strategy. If I was successful and built up a stack, I'd tighten up and play longball with premium starting hands and premium draws on the flop.

With maniacs, your implied odds are long and stealing is not a high percentage play. With tight players, implied odds are not there so small ball stealing and jabbing is what you want to do.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

This is why there are many different strategies...I personally prefer to play a style opposite of my opponents and tweak as I learn more about them. Forcing yourself into a suboptimal strategy is a good way to lose money.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

Against maniacs I prefer to play tight and to play for stacks. Smallball would seem more appropriate against tight players who are likely to make mistakes.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

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Against maniacs I prefer to play tight and to play for stacks. Smallball would seem more appropriate against tight players who are likely to make mistakes.

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I completely disagree with this.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

Why? I thought smallball is most effective when your opponents are weak-tight?
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

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Against maniacs I prefer to play tight and to play for stacks. Smallball would seem more appropriate against tight players who are likely to make mistakes.

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I completely disagree with this.

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Regarding playing against maniacs, I'm sure it depends on the person. Sure you can do well getting in there and mixing it up with the locos, but I tend to make marginal or bad decisions when I have no read on my opponent. So personally I do much better waiting for a big hand and letting the maniac try to push me off it.

I don't know much about smallball theory, but it strikes me that it would be best against players who will make a lot of mistakes. More decisions = more mistakes by your opponents = more profit for you. I could be completely wrong.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

Can anyone link me to an explanation of this Smallball thing?
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Smallball poker-strategy at a table filled with maniacs

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Against maniacs I prefer to play tight and to play for stacks. Smallball would seem more appropriate against tight players who are likely to make mistakes.

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I completely disagree with this.

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Regarding playing against maniacs, I'm sure it depends on the person. Sure you can do well getting in there and mixing it up with the locos, but I tend to make marginal or bad decisions when I have no read on my opponent. So personally I do much better waiting for a big hand and letting the maniac try to push me off it.

I don't know much about smallball theory, but it strikes me that it would be best against players who will make a lot of mistakes. More decisions = more mistakes by your opponents = more profit for you. I could be completely wrong.

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Sorry for that. If you read my original post you would see I was pulling your leg.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:45 PM
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Can anyone link me to an explanation of this Smallball thing?

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http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-fo...amp;pid=1350275
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