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Old 09-29-2007, 12:31 AM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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Default J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

Villian is a huuugggeee nit, 12/7 over 500 hands. Pre flop is marginal but I decided to call and try to stack his 1010-AA. Thoughts on the b3b AI here? Standard most of the time but here there is a fd out and I don't think I have as much fe as against player with a wider range. He obv has an overpair, possibly a set, I'd say 70% OP 30% set. Maybe getting fancy with AK/AQ which I'd say are the only hands I have fe against.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $44.00
Hero (BB): $68.95
UTG: $60.85
MP: $52.65
CO: $37.25
BTN: $142.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $10.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $67.20</font>
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:38 AM
mdm13 mdm13 is offline
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

You are almost sure he has an overpair or a set, acknowledge you have very little FE and you want to get all the money in the middle???

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.964% 38.81% 02.16% 13062 726.50 { Jc9c }
Hand 1: 59.036% 56.88% 02.16% 19145 726.50 { JJ+, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, 9d9h, 9d9s, 9h9s, 88-77 }
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Old 09-29-2007, 03:26 AM
kaz2107 kaz2107 is offline
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

looks ok to me. he has an overpair like everytime. a few random sets thrown in their and a few random draws. i like it
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Old 09-29-2007, 04:35 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

Preflop is awful wtf
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

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looks ok to me. he has an overpair like everytime. a few random sets thrown in their and a few random draws. i like it

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But is the nit gonna fold his overpairs? Even a nit stacks off here with the overpairs.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

I agree with mdm. Nits are nits. They can't fold postflop, which is why they make sure to play hands they are gonna make $ with guaranteed no matter what comes on flop &amp; afterwards. There's no way he's folding like kings here. I'd just fold. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:58 PM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

I don't like preflop, but then again I got stacked today by an idiot willing to go all in preflop with J9s against my AA. So this hand definitely has potential [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

On the flop I would like to have a diamond draw. So if it was Jd9d on a 8d9hTd, I'd say it is great. But this is requires some guts. I tend to say your action is more like a maniak.
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

I think you guys are missing the point of playing against nits if you think preflop is bad. They are raising like JJ-AA and AK only here and suited connectors are perfect to crack these hands. I prefer c/c on this flop, half the deck is scare cards you can easily take this pot away from him after the flop if the board gets scarier
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

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I think you guys are missing the point of playing against nits if you think preflop is bad. They are raising like JJ-AA and AK only here and suited connectors are perfect to crack these hands. I prefer c/c on this flop, half the deck is scare cards you can easily take this pot away from him after the flop if the board gets scarier

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They may be good to crack the hands but you need to flop 2pair or better or get sufficient odds to draw, you don't really have much FE.
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: J9s flops pair + OESD vs a nit

Preflop is bad. Just c/c the flop.
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