$22: 66 OTB, bubble hand

[xGREGORx]

What do you do here on the bubble with these stacks?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t2938)
SB (t2675)
BB (t2520)
UTG (t5367)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???

[J Darnielle]

I'd raise to ~$450 then fold to a shove. Interested in hearing how others play this though because this may be a leak for me.

[kamel]

Depends on my reads of the opponents.

I'll push if they are tight calling all-ins but like to see flops anyway. I'll min-raise/fold or so if they are very weak-tight. I'll fold, if I spot them to be weak bubble players, like to call too weak hands.

If they are good but still standard SnG players, I'll push, as those will be too weak-tight (but might be capable of restealing). If they are "standard" regulars, I'll push about 25-35% of time and fold otherwise.

It they are really great (having ROI of 20% or so), I'll just fold. Those would be capable of calling correctly with AK, 77 or so, but those players are rare at 22s.

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But Standard play without reads would be a fold here, probably push with 77, definitly with 99.

[J-P]

omg pls do not push 20 bbs here. Open t375-400 and go from there.

[fanapathy]

Raise 2.5-3x, fold to shove, cbet any flop, fold to lead on bad board.

I never openshove here. Ever.

[kamel]

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omg pls do not push 20 bbs here. Open t375-400 and go from there.

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I've given you the reads against opponents to do that. Of course not against any opponent and not against unkown one, I've said it.

You definitly don't want to raise against good regulars that will come over the top very light e.g.. I'd probably re-attack a BU-raiser with any2suited (allthough that might not be sound), but would you like to raise/call or raise/fold against such an opponent here?

[kamel]

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Raise 2.5-3x, fold to shove, cbet any flop, fold to lead on bad board.

I never openshove here. Ever.

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So, you give an aggressive opponent just 2.5-3 BBs. He'll thank you.

[J Darnielle]

There are way better plays than pushing here no matter what you have, Kamel.

[J-P]

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Raise 2.5-3x, fold to shove, cbet any flop, fold to lead on bad board.

I never openshove here. Ever.

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So, you give an aggressive opponent just 2.5-3 BBs. He'll thank you.

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You're acting as if they are going to resteal on you every single time here. You're really overestimating the amount of times the blinds come over the top in these situations especially on the bubble.

[kamel]

So tell me the ways.

If I spot BU as a kind of a good, solid but not the greatest SnG player, I'll resteal-shove as one of the blinds (especially as the Big Blind), I'll push with any2suited in BB (and some offsuit connectors and Ax and so) and in the SB mit Axs,Kxs,Q7s,suiteded-one-gappers+,Axo+,K6o+,Q9o+.
You can't tell me that raise/folding from BU now is profitable against me.

Against an unknown or weakt/tight or ITM-Folder or massive multitabling SnG regular or Maniacs, there are better ways to play 66 from BU (raise/fold or just fold or limp), but there are opponents I have classified where it is better to open-shove it, even with still a lot of chips.