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Old 01-04-2007, 08:38 AM
goofyballer goofyballer is offline
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Default 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

Villain is 15/6/2.3 over 800 datamined hands. Haven't tangled.

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
8 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $61
BB: $252
UTG: $219.65
UTG+1: $250.75
MP2: $43.70
Hero (MP3): $203.40
CO: $367.35
BTN: $222

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q K ($3, 8 players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q 6 7 ($17, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $28</font>, Hero...

Do I...

...call; he's a nit and is giving me good odds to hit
...3bet to $100ish (PSR); am I shoving any turn if he calls? would be $94 left in $217 pot
...shove to $194; huge overbet, but makes him fold probably everything except sets and two pair, or maybe combo draws that I'm ahead of, and he prob won't fold AA/KK either if he slowplayed those
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

CALL

I think often he has AQ/KQ/QJ/66/77 here. If you raise sure he may fold qj/qk and may or may not fold AQ, but he definately won't fold 66/77. I feel you're beaten here OFTEN, and he will be willing to get his stack in. just call and fold turn to a big bet.

if he checks turn we can assume he has AQ/kq/qj most likely, 1 beats you, you beat 1 and you tie with one, but you have many outs on all of them. He would call with aq, may or may not call your bet with kq and fold qj if you bet turn. So just check it down.
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:50 AM
Sciolist Sciolist is offline
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

I make it $90 odd, partly because I want to get money into the pot whilst I'm ahead of something like AA, and partly because when one of those people who folds to cbets 35% of the time starts reraising and check/raising my cbets, I want to be able to show them a hand where I will reraise that kind of play, so that I can play back at them sometimes.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:00 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

You have pretty good equity against his entire range. I 3-bet this every single time to 90-100 ish and felt if needs be.
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

def 3 bet and try to get it AI. if we call we lose so much equity to this nit when we hit our draw unless he has the nut draw in which case were ahead right now and need to protect our hand. im makin it 100 to go here
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

just call, you likely are beat here.

also, welcome to the dark side, otherwise known as full ring... [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

You have pretty much no fe and often not particularly good pot equity either so I'd just call and hope to hit a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Paul
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

against this guy, I call and call most turn bets depending on size.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

i dont like a call because when he bets the turn like PS then the situation is ugly and i think a reraise is the best play....(with a "phill hellmuth millisecond push" on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: 200nl FR, KQs flops TP + FD and gets minraised OOP

I like the 3-bet to ~100 here.
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