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Old 11-16-2007, 04:50 PM
Velocity Velocity is offline
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Default Re: 109$ Basic hand

if you were deeper it'd be better obv, but the whole chips we win are worth less than the chips we lose thing makes taking slightly +chipEV spots early something we don't want to do. calling pre here isn't standard for me, but i may be a little nittier in the early levels than most. For some reason this post made me think of part one of this post , so I'm linking it.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: 109$ Basic hand

AL I really thought this might be one of your famous (fake) hand posts, but it is an interesting situation.

Not shallow enough to push on the flop, but not deep enough to raise without committing yourself. I can see some reasons to call on the flop.

I like your raise, you might not get paid off with a heart on the turn if you call here, and you might take it down unopposed on the flop with a raise. Plus sometimes you can fold a higher flush draw with a raise on the flop.

I think if you're going to call preflop, you want to play it aggressively on a flop like this.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:42 PM
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The only thing I would do differently is raise less on the flop. t400 on the flop.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:16 PM
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i like the raise but i dont think flat calling would be all that bad here.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: 109$ Basic hand

1. Fold preflop for sure

2. I'd call the flop for sure. When you raise you have to call any reraise, so it's kind of annoying to risk all your chips here, even though you will have pretty good equity. I sort of like just calling, and not putting all your eggs in one basket. I mean after calling, you have only invested 10% of your chips. In a SNG I'd rather take the safer route like this, still keep a ton of equity and also give yourself some cheaper bluff opportunities on later streets.

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Old 11-16-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: 109$ Basic hand

dont you think by raising we fold out alot of 88ish type hands that we dont want to go showdown with, I really felt like FE wwas important here
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: 109$ Basic hand

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dont you think by raising we fold out alot of 88ish type hands that we dont want to go showdown with, I really felt like FE wwas important here

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The pot is still small and you have position. Also if they have 88, you may be able to take it away later.

In a cash game I'd often just raise and get it allin, just gambling is significantly worse early in SNGs.
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:42 AM
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WTF is Wingos? Those stacks look funny.
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:43 AM
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Curtains is right

I call flop. We're still going to buttrape 88 type of hands regardless of what happens because we are alreturnslol and we are the sickest of all time
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