Limping UtG (theory, move if you feel wrong forum)

[DanielDayLewis]

I touched on this on a previous post but I am really curious.

I've noticed a lot more people limp UtG in HS games. I don't understand how this is +EV exactly (lets ignore shortstackes and their impact for now since people also do it in games w/o shorties).

Is limping your entire UtG raising range +EV? Is limping only part of it +EV? I don't understand what mistakes doing this would cause your opponents to make. Is the EV you gain by baing able to easily fold > the EV of taking down the blinds for free when the table folds?

Is it because u get paid off when BB raises KJs and you call with AK and stack him when K22 flops? Whereas he might have folded before? Is it a leveling thing "He is playing this so obviously like a low PP that it a set that he can't actually have it"?

What does an UtG limp generally mean in 6max games? in FR games? (I understand I can look this up in PT, but would like a bit of discussion).

I'd apprieciate any meaningful thoughts you have to contribute.

[trambopoline]

FWIW I never see people limping UTG in SH high stakes games

[Orlando Salazar]

lol at limping 3-6 handed.
Full ring is a diff story...

[Mr.Busto]

full ering you wont see that many UTG limps

[innerpeace]

if you feel that you can outplay your opponents post flop, then it's generally better to keep the pot small preflop. in high stakes games, everyone thinks they can outplay everyone else, which is why you might see more open limping. this even happens in short-handed games, especially if the big blind over-defends. also, by making your initial bet size small, it's easier to deal with a re-raise, especially if your range is wide. open limping also mixes things up and can throw your opponents off balance, which is an important consideration in higher-stakes play.