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Old 11-15-2007, 10:51 AM
WantToLearn WantToLearn is offline
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Default NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

Hi 2+2 - some advice needed! Thank you very much!

<u>Question:</u> Whatīs the correct reaction to his flop c/r here? How far can we go here?

<u>Reads:</u> villain is tight straihgtforward reg.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($30.25)
Button ($22.70)
SB ($4.65)
BB ($25.15)
UTG ($29.95)
UTG+1 ($11.40)
MP1 ($29.05)
MP2 ($13.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.85</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $5.7</font>, Hero ???
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:02 AM
RapidEvolution RapidEvolution is offline
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

Stats on villain? If he's straightforward I put him on 44-88, or maybe scs that hit 2pair or a pair/draw combo. If he's that straightforward, I probably fold to the flop check-raise, but be aware that this is the perfect flop to bluff on. My standard is to 3bet here with the intent of folding to a shove (He could have something like TT/JJ/AQ here and be making a move).
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

Insta fold please.

Sure, a tight straightforward regular limp calls a raise and check raises you on that flop.. yeah, you're behind 110% of the time.

Dont have second thoughts about it. This is textbook set mining.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

I would c/r that flop with every pair, every straight draw, every overpair... But NEVER with a set or a straight. Why should i ? I let you do the work.

Either call and bet the turn or raise it right here to 11. Fold to shove only if AF is low.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

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I would c/r that flop with every pair, every straight draw, every overpair... But NEVER with a set or a straight. Why should i ? I let you do the work.


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Ok, but letīs try to get in villains head. I am sure he is not open-limping TT+. I also donīt think heīs doing something like limp-call A7s or so.

If these ideas were true, would that chance your advice?
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

Yeah, but he probably limp-calls hands like 44,88,78s etc.. I change my mind if villain is passive. You didnīt say anything about his AF. Also what is your image ? If you are known to cbet a lot..
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

check-minraise? I think fold is good here.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: NL25 KK overpair ip, c/r by tight reg villain

his range is SC's and small/medium pairs. As has been pointed out, he probably has a set, 2pair or a pair+draw combo, there isn't enough evidence yet that he has you crushed.

such a small raise too... i call and re-evaluate on the turn. If he fires again then im probably folding, but if he checks i'll check behind and hope for some sort of cheap showdown.
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