***Official November Chat Thread: The Golden Duck***

[mab812]

RNG is soooOOo terrible

[GrandMelon]

cool

[Mike Kelley]

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Some other fun things that some may/may not want to hear:

Try this program, it greatly improves the space usage of Stars:
http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/NoTitlebar <--- It is hard to set-up but once you get it done it is amazing how much extra space I have.



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I don't really see the use of this since if you tile the tables it still acts like the title bar is there?

[mab812]

to be winning the amounts that you post and have stuff like that... well, i don't think we need to say much more. Coach me? See what you can do with bleeeeh 100 NL player?

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[Chargers In 07]

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funny thing was you blasted a guy for calling with KK in a spot like this

[/ QUOTE ]In a spot where somebody called a raise and then pushed? Depends if I gotta read, I probably call in those spots. I do think 4 bets are AA >90% of the time at the $50 with deepish stacks(75bb+) though. This guy was 50/20 and I had just reraised him with AK like 4 hands before. I'd probably fold JJ here and have a little decision w/QQ against him.

[too eazy]

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I do think 4 bets are AA >90% of the time at the $50 with deepish stacks(75bb+) though.

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You haven't played enough hands then.

[Chargers In 07]

k I got 160k hands at the $50 and I went through the whole pokerev thing with a 2p2er last week and used holdem manager for when facing/giving lots of action preflop w/KK. It's a -ev play to get all in with KK at the $50. I know nobody will agree but I at least put in some effort to see if it was + or - ev. Every single time with the exception of 1 I got in w/KK w/heavy action preflop I was toast when having >75bbs.

[Kos13]

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Did i misplay this hand? I was hoping they would draw to their straights/flushes, and hit. Of course, I forgot, this is RiverStars, home of the 2 out rivers.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($133.65)
UTG+1 ($345.55)
Hero ($228.25)
MP2 ($113.50)
MP3 ($102.70)
CO ($233.45)
Button ($188.05)
SB ($198)
BB ($379.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3, BB calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $6</font>, Hero calls $6, Button calls $6, SB folds.

Turn: ($34) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $10</font>, BB calls $10, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $10, BB calls $10.

River: ($94) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $349.65 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $198.25 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: $490.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 9c 9d (full house, nines full of fours).
Hero has 6h 6c (full house, sixes full of fours).
Outcome: BB wins $641.90. </font>

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El-oh-el.

[Mike Kelley]

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geez, that's impressive. sorry GM

[mab812]

Agreed chargers... i've also noticed that.

in a 4bet+ pot in the lower limits... 25-50NL... and even 100 NL... it's usually AA (it's probably different once you get to the bigger games where you're like 4betting 27os easy :P)

it's that way because i've noticed that people are generally less aggressive, so you wont' see many players 3 betting period...let alone 4bet... so it's almost safe to stay away from those hands unless you have it. it's just not worth it unless you have stats on the guy as an ultra loose and aggressive... in that case.. we'll just ring the cash register.

against any of the setmining nits at 25-50 and even 100NL... kk is not a bad fold in that spot unless you've already committed a @#%@ load of chips.

my 2cents. (on the low level games)

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k I got 160k hands at the $50 and I went through the whole pokerev thing with a 2p2er last week and used holdem manager for when facing/giving lots of action preflop w/KK. It's a -ev play to get all in with KK at the $50. I know nobody will agree but I at least put in some effort to see if it was + or - ev. Every single time with the exception of 1 I got in w/KK w/heavy action preflop I was toast when having &gt;75bbs.

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