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Old 10-19-2007, 10:23 AM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

it's so much better with aJ
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

do you ever make this play with AA, AT, or a 3?
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:05 AM
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id rather 3bet with KT here

anyone like calling the flop c/r ?
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

ye, if also prefer calling and shoving the turn.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

You have no read that his donk is a weak/ probe bet. He is killing it over a small sample. There is a diamond draw out which if he has he is probably moving in on you and yet the only options I am hearing are float and bluff turn or bluff flop which looks more like a bluff than anything else. I like a fold here on the flop until I know what a donk from him means.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:28 PM
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id rather 3bet with KT here

anyone like calling the flop c/r ?

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Only if he isn't that likely to fire the turn again and we can pick up the pot there.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:47 PM
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do you ever make this play with AA, AT, or a 3?

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not really an issue at this point since there is no history. the issue is whether he thinks you would.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

also probably a good flop to check with this particular hand.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

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id rather 3bet with KT here

anyone like calling the flop c/r ?

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Only if he isn't that likely to fire the turn again and we can pick up the pot there.

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well duhhhhh, but all we know is that hes unknown
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: bluffing with no reads or history

i think a flop check may be kinda standard
but w/e that doesnt really matter...

if my read was that he can let this go i think i would float the CR-but either way this gets kinda gross-which is why i think i ilke a flop check
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