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Old 08-14-2007, 03:59 PM
blackasthma blackasthma is offline
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Default Re: Live KQ Turn Bluff with Air

I would've probably checked this flop. Maybe it's instinctive to make a c-bet on this board, but do you really expect the entire field to fold to a flop bet here? You should probably give them credit for having something at this point. I would've bet the flop w/any PP, because then I'm betting to protect my hand. I'm surprised to see you 3-bet here, because I think this is an easy fold situation at the first sign of aggression. After all, let's face it - you have a marginal EP hand to begin with, your raise attracted way too many callers, and this ugly board left your overs UI and likely improved someone else's hand. You're actually betting someone else's hand for value here...
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:20 PM
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This hand was so read-based that it's terrible unless you were there. Just go ahead and do it and don't make a post about it.
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:05 PM
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This hand was so read-based that it's terrible unless you were there. Just go ahead and do it and don't make a post about it.

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Meh. That's true. Nice to meet you. How'd the 30/60 game end up?
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:25 PM
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This hand was so read-based that it's terrible unless you were there. Just go ahead and do it and don't make a post about it.

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Meh. That's true. Nice to meet you. How'd the 30/60 game end up?

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I like both quotes and acknowledge
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Live KQ Turn Bluff with Air

why not try to checkraise the turn? seems like it would be cheaper. it's not like getting a free card is the worst thing that could happen to you.

btw, i think you see 77 here quite a bit. if he can fold 88-TT it's more reasonable, but those hands are overpairs(not top pair as he has been folding all night).
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:08 PM
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why not try to checkraise the turn? seems like it would be cheaper. it's not like getting a free card is the worst thing that could happen to you.

btw, i think you see 77 here quite a bit. if he can fold 88-TT it's more reasonable, but those hands are overpairs(not top pair as he has been folding all night).

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When he calls the flop, unimproved overcards are a large part of his range. He's folding most of these to a second barel.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:14 PM
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After the turn 3-bet. I would also bet any A or J on river as possible bluff outs.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:08 PM
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This hand was so read-based that it's terrible unless you were there. Just go ahead and do it and don't make a post about it.

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Meh. That's true. Nice to meet you. How'd the 30/60 game end up?

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Nice meeting you. And don't get me wrong, that was a baller play that was way better than my river bluff. It's just that it'll confuse the SSHEers here because that play is so unorthodox.

I finished +1900 at the 30 over 3 hrs of play. Ship it crucial.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:27 PM
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river c/r bluffs are always balla. amirite?
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:34 PM
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river c/r bluffs are always balla. amirite?

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i had position, so i was less balla. =/
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