60-120 hand

andyfox · #1 08-02-2007, 12:00 PM

Good player told me I did the wrong thing on the river in this hand, so here it is.

Folded around to me on the button, I raise with 9-9. Small blind folds and big blind--a relatively tight but somewhat imaginative and probably small winnning player who often plays 100-200--3 bets. I'm having a big day and have lots of chips in front of me. She's has just come from the must move game and appears to be about even on the day and in normal mood. I call.

Flop comes T-4-2 rainbow. She checks, I bet, she check-raises, I 3-bet, she 4-bets, I 5-bet, she 6-bets, I gulp, blink, frown, grimace and call.

Turn is a 9, which is how I got lots of chips in front of me. She bets, I raise, she calls quickly in rhythm.

River is an Ace. She checks quickly.

Bet five knuckles or $120? Comments on other streets appreccated as well.

rafiki · #2 08-02-2007, 12:09 PM

I've never played 60-120, but I like

pre: What's her range for that raise preflop ? If she's really tight I like calling the 3bet. But if her range includes hands like AQ, KJs, ATs, 77, etc... then I think I like going 4 bets preflop.

flop: I could never 5 bet the flop with no redraw based on the description of the player. Seems like you also get into less betting here if you go 4 preflop and she goes 5.

turn: good street, and now her hand is down to probably KK and AA and sometimes QQ

river: I really want to say bet/call given the pot size. Would she call the river with KK/QQ when an A hits ? if the answer is yes then it's a pretty easy bet/call for me.

brandon · #3 08-02-2007, 12:34 PM

Flop is spewing. After 3 bets its time to call and hit a 2 outer on the turn.

Turn: expert turn card

River: Well we have 4th nut. Sounds like villain is a decent enough player to realize that you have set. In order to bet the river our hand has to be good 50% of the time when we get called. Is she paying you off with jj, qq, or kk?

When I started this part I was in favor of a bet. I like a check. There might be a little value here in a bet, but not much. We get paid off very infrequently and 2 bet every time by hands that crush us.

Overseer55 · #4 08-02-2007, 12:45 PM

Turn action eliminates possibility of villain having TT, IMHO. Although it is possible she has AA, I would put the collective range of [KK/QQ/44/22] as being much more likely than AA. Bet and expect a fold (KK/QQ) or a snap-call/muck (44/22). b/f is expert against some players (maybe this villain, maybe not) since your body language puts you on exactly 99.

BTW, did you really gulp, blink, frown & grimace?

JimRivett · #5 08-02-2007, 12:49 PM

Hey Andy,

Bet the river, by this time time she has you on 10 10 and is frustrated you out flopped her, she's not going to let her river set get checked through.

Bet and expect her to agonize over it and call, she has KK (most likely) or QQ.

Too bad you couldn't get another 9 on the river [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Jim

ackid · #6 08-02-2007, 01:46 PM

The flop seems a little bit spewy to me.

I bet the river as played

Bicycles_Biatch · #7 08-02-2007, 02:05 PM

you better have some type of disgusting read on this chic to put in that 5th bet... maybe and I mean MAYBE if the cards were marked and I KNEW she only had AK, AQ, or AJ, or 88 would I put in 5 bets here :-)

BTW... I really like the 3 bet on the flop, the answered prayer on the turn, and I think you bet the river...

I'm going to have to laugh out loud a bit if you did in fact bet the river, she C/R, and turned over 3-5 SUITED.

Bicycles_Biatch · #8 08-02-2007, 02:06 PM

BTW... don't you think it's funny how only a few years back 60-120 would have been the BIG game at any Vegas casino... now it's just mid-limit... ha ha ha...

AragornX151 · #9 08-02-2007, 02:27 PM

I would never 5-bet the flop, and only sometimes 3-bet it. This seems way over-the-top.

I'd always bet the river. Is she really risking checking AAA on the river after all this action and the ultimate scare card arriving? I suppose she could be leveling you, but I think it's much more likely that she has a smaller set or JJ-KK.

Josh W · #10 08-02-2007, 02:40 PM

Seems like there is a lot of hate in this thread. Let me shift the focus.

I LOVE the turn play, Andy. Expert in every way.

I'm guessing you bet, and your friend said you should check since s/he thinks there's little or no value in it (KK, QQ, JJ may not pay off, AA costs you two bets). Thing is, BB may have AT (twice as likely as AA!!!!). And, you say it's an imaginitive player in the BB, so....as an imaginitive player myself, there could be MANY hands BB has.

So, you bet the river, and even though your friend says it was bad, I LOVE IT. And, you called the checkraise, and I still love that!

I love you, AndyFox!

J