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#11
12-18-2006, 02:08 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
With regard to the river bet as played - don't assume an unknown knows about showdown value. At this level a lot of donks will bet their 88 or w/e just because they assume they have the best hand now, not thinking about what value there is in the bet. We only have to be right 25% of the time here...
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#12
12-18-2006, 02:14 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
I think bet-folding is better than c-c here.
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#13
12-18-2006, 02:17 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
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I think bet-folding is better than c-c here. [/ QUOTE ] I am assuming you are referring to the river. Given that the pot is $96 and I have ~ $55 left, what amount would you recommend betting on the river so that I can fold to a river raise and not be pot committed? Haupt_234
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#14
12-18-2006, 02:19 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
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[ QUOTE ] I think bet-folding is better than c-c here. [/ QUOTE ] I am assuming you are referring to the river. Given that the pot is $96 and I have ~ $55 left, what amount would you recommend betting on the river so that I can fold to a river raise and not be pot committed? Haupt_234 [/ QUOTE ] Huh, didn't look at stack sizes. In that case, I guess just open push or c/f. C-c isn't good because there's not much for him to bluff with. As Jay says, maybe he'll bet 88 for "value" but that's not much to count on.
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#15
12-18-2006, 02:21 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
Lol, I didn't even look at stack sizes properly either. In that case, just open shove, a lot of pp's and 9-x hands will look you up here. I hate the turn bet the more and more I look at this hand.
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#16
12-18-2006, 02:28 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
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In that case, just open shove, a lot of pp's and 9-x hands will look you up here. [/ QUOTE ] Given villain's stats, I doubt I will see 9x hands here too often. I think smaller PPs are likely, though, which may/should warrant a river push given my stack size. [ QUOTE ] I hate the turn bet the more and more I look at this hand. [/ QUOTE ] So do I. Haupt_234
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#17
12-18-2006, 10:38 AM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
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[ QUOTE ] Normally, I'm done here. [/ QUOTE ] I agree that the SBs flop overcall is scary, and I like speedlimits line of checking the turn and re-evaluating a lot better. That way, I can cheaply/easily lay down if UTG+1 bets and the SB wakes up. At the time, I guess I was just afraid of giving a free card to something like JT. Haupt_234 [/ QUOTE ] The overcall I would generally assume represents huge strength or a stronger draw than JT. I think that had a 6 or J hit, it would be tough to continue going forward in the hand. If UTG+1 takes the impetus if you turn check, then you're in great position to make a decision. I haven't been called a nit in a while. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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#18
12-18-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
I usually don't end up posting results, but UTG+1 ended up showing T8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and schooled me.
[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Haupt_234
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#19
12-18-2006, 02:35 PM
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Re: NL100 - C/fing JJ on river
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13, 3 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $11</font>, UTG+1 calls, SB calls. [/ QUOTE ] Normally, I'm done here. [/ QUOTE ] Nit. Though I agree checking the turn is best here looking back. [/ QUOTE ] If you check the turn what river cards/bet sizes are you calling?
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