NL10: top pair top kicker, played flop weak again

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Flop is a definate PSR. Contradicting the first response, I think its fair enought to assume this villan's pf3bet range is at least JJ+,AK without other reads.

Against this range we have about 2/3 equity. Calling flop is out of the question imo.

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21,780 games 0.109 secs 199,816 games/sec

Board: 4d 4s Ks
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 64.598% 51.78% 12.82% 11278 2791.50 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 35.402% 22.58% 12.82% 4919 2791.50 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

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The problem is, we aren't ahead of the range that calls our flop raise, villain likely mucks JJ and QQ (and TT if it's in his range). We are WA/WB, so I agree with the flop call, with the intention of extracting some value from underpairs on later streets. On turn, I'd reevaluate and muck, the Q has brought a second overpair to TT and JJ, so I doubt villain would fire again with these and QQ just filled up.

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You have to bet this flop. JJ/QQ fold; take the dead money. They call = value for you. If you don't rep the king there is confusion on this turn as AQ thinks he's ahead here.

If you get raised you're behind. Save your stack for a better spot rather than going crazy on an ugly turn.

Do you really think its a good idea to give cheap cards with vulnerable hands like this?