NL50: TPMK meets a donk's river c/r

[guess who]

Hello,

currently I'm back to NL50 and this hand came up during my todays session.
villian is quite a donk with datamined 58/18/1.8 (153 hands). I'm new at the table and have been quite carddead, I ran at 2/2/0 over my first 30 hands.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $58.42
UTG+1: $45.12
CO: $53
Hero: $53.43
SB: $81.93
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($8.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($20.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $24</font>, ...


Flop: I tried a little pot control here, since no draws are possible and the pot being already quite big.

Turn: $1 bet screams a lower pair so I raise it up a bit.

River: value bet ftw...

His big river raise really scared me... I tend to put him on a 4 and think about folding.

Is my ace any good here?

ty for your thoughts,
guess

[hunt1897]

In order to use pot control, bet flop, ck. turn, call pot or less on river.

As played, fold.

[Rednas]

Villain's line is really strong, I guess he has a full house.
I think a check on the river is better once he calls our turn raise.

[XxGeneralxX]

bet flop -&gt; check turn -&gt; re-evaluate riv

[guess who]

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Villain's line is really strong, I guess he has a full house.
I think a check on the river is better once he calls our turn raise.

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I thought about this but since villian seemed to be such a donk I couldn't resist and expected to see something like a 7 or 88-JJ.

[agent_fish]

You throw your carefully laid plans of pot control out the window on the turn. You could just call the turn, then call a river bet, or value bet if he checks.

Basically it seems like you had a plan, then you abandoned it. Everytime I have a plan for a hand but get away from it I get into trouble.

[cowboy billy]

I don't mind the flop check, I do it sometimes too when I paired my ace on a dry board (to induce action from villain more so than for pot control), obv I ALWAYS bet this board when I DON'T have an ace, so we can't NOT cbet this flop against a perceptive player

as played, with the minbet by villain on turn and the river c/raise I fold this without a 2nd thought, his line screams big hand to me

I would bet a little bit bigger on the river though (little over half pot), since we're betting for value, we do want to squeeze those couple extra bucks out of villain AND it would actually make it harder for villain to come over the top with nothing, bc he'd be committing more on a bluff

your $8 bet on the river seems weakish after you've shown so much strength on the turn

[Spurious]

Best case is a split, so i fold here.

Bet flop.
Turn is fine as played.
River check behind, you said that the pot was big on the river. Then you had the raise on the turn. And finally on the river the pot isn't big enough anymore? And since the Q come, you basicly split with every other ace.