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Old 11-13-2007, 01:24 PM
Nudge Nudge is offline
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Default ROI and rakeback

Should rakeback be included in the ROI calculation?
It seems pretty logical to subtract the rakeback from the fee, when you do the calculation. But i haven't seen it in any of the examples i have found.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: ROI and rakeback

Since ROI includes the rake you pay, you should also include rakeback.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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Okey, because I have a tiny dilemma.
I'm putting together an excell spreadsheet, and I cant decide if I should include the rakeback percentage from my bonus in the main calculation. With the bonus rakeback included it would show ny true "net win" and ROI, but not my current "net win" since it may take a while before the bonus is payed out. And my current "Net Win" is kind of importent considering BR management. How do you guys do it?
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: ROI and rakeback

1. buy tourney manager
2. spend more time playing poker/ less time making spreadsheets
3. ?????
4. profit
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:30 PM
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Your ROI is never gonna tell you your true winrate. I don't even track it at all besides the sharkscope thing, and I'm not even a subscriber there. The only statistic I'm really interested in is $$$ in my account besides the confidence that I'm making the right desicions at the tables.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:33 PM
sonneti sonneti is offline
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Default Re: ROI and rakeback

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1. buy tourney manager or poker tracker
2. spend more time playing poker/ less time making spreadsheets
3. ?????
4. profit

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Old 11-13-2007, 05:50 PM
jay_shark jay_shark is offline
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Default Re: ROI and rakeback

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Should rakeback be included in the ROI calculation?
It seems pretty logical to subtract the rakeback from the fee, when you do the calculation. But i haven't seen it in any of the examples i have found.

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Of course it should . Since it's part of your investment for the buy-in which has to be subtracted from your buy-in .

For instance , if you play in a regular sng with 5% rake , then a reduction of 27% implies that you're paying 5%X73% = 3.65% in rake .
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:14 PM
LordMushroom2 LordMushroom2 is offline
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Default Re: ROI and rakeback

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Should rakeback be included in the ROI calculation?

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You can do this when you want to find just how profitable you are. But when you post your ROI on a forum, it is custom to leave rakeback out of it.
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