Countferfit poker chips

[skitzo444]

Are the laws pertaining to counterfiting paper money the same as if you were trying to counterfit a casinos poker chips.

I am not planning on trying this ever I was just wondering what laws apply in casinos?
Links would be helpful

[billbam]

Counterfiting U.S. currency is Federal offense and is a specific law about counterfiting said U.S. currency. Counterfiting a casino chip would be a local issue and probably would fall into the area of "theft" at the time you try to cash in those chip or possibly some type of "fraud" for putting the chips into play.

[nineinchal]

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Are the laws pertaining to counterfiting paper money the same as if you were trying to counterfit a casinos poker chips.

I am not planning on trying this ever I was just wondering what laws apply in casinos?
Links would be helpful

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It would be easier to counterfeit US currency than casino chips. The last place a counterfeiter should try to pass either phony chips or currency is a casino.

[swope]

there was a great documentary about a metallurgist who managed to manufacture slot machine tokes that were so close to the real things that they still find them in circulation to this day.

he didnt even do it for the money, he just considered it a challenge.

that argument didnt work out for him and he went to PMITA prison for a considerable stretch. i believe the charges were theft, basically. tokes/casino chips arent US currency and are not subject to the same federal protection, but seeking to defraud any business by any means, including manufacturing tokes/chips, will land one in the slammer.

[Diana Ross Fan]

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It would be easier to counterfeit US currency than casino chips. The last place a counterfeiter should try to pass either phony chips or currency is a casino.

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Actually in a poker room it would be easy. Just by into a game and play normally, soon most of your chips would be spread around. You can then just color up when your done anyway. Granted, this presumes you are not forging the highest denomination chips.

[eastcoaster]

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It would be easier to counterfeit US currency than casino chips. The last place a counterfeiter should try to pass either phony chips or currency is a casino.

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Actually in a poker room it would be easy. Just by into a game and play normally, soon most of your chips would be spread around. You can then just color up when your done anyway. Granted, this presumes you are not forging the highest denomination chips.

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mehhh, I don't think so. If you just spread your fake chips around at a poker game, and you're winning, those chips are mostly coming back to your stack. Coloring up is the only point to change them out for real ones, and even then you might get some your fakes back. If you're coloring up, then you are talking about counterfeiting lower denomination chips that would need to be colored up to higher denominations (real) chips. Possible, but you're talking about counterfeiting a higher quantity of chips and that means a greater chance your scam would be detected. And you'd be pretty nerve-wracked sitting at a poker table for an hour or so trying to change out all of your fakes for reals. Also, I have played in several poker rooms where dealers will NOT color up because it slows the game up.

A better move would be to counterfeit one (or a few) large denomination chip(s) and change it/them for smaller denomination, real, chips; at a craps or 21 table...and then lose a few of those and walk with the real chips, cash them and leave. If the casino doesn't spot your fake chip or chips, they will just think you're another loser making a donation.

[Yaboosh]

One of the "Breaking Vegas" episodes on History Channel involved a chip counterfeiter that apparently was so good that nobody at the casino could tell the difference, and the manufacturers of the chips had an extremely difficult time telling the difference.

[Rootabager]

Why is it so hard to counterfit casino chips. Seems like it would be pretty easy from just loking at them.

[Analyst]

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there was a great documentary about a metallurgist who managed to manufacture slot machine tokes that were so close to the real things that they still find them in circulation to this day.

he didnt even do it for the money, he just considered it a challenge.



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That was a great show, though iirc he was doing it for the money. One issue that arose was that apparently what he did was not a crime in his home state (Rhode Island). They had to wait for him to make another run to the casinos before arresting him.

[Jerry D]

And very soon all casino chips will have RFID chips in them, making any lamebrained attempt at making phony chips virtually impossible.