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Old 11-29-2007, 02:25 AM
youtalkfunny youtalkfunny is offline
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They will try to tall you about advertising "fees" and such, just say no.

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I've been meaning to ask about these.

When they draw up the sales agreement, they add up a column of numbers. The top number is the price of the car. The other numbers are such things as the extended warranty, the options, the tag and title fees, etc.

There's always an "advertising" fee there, usually $100-300. And the number is not written in by the salesman, it is already typed on the form.

Is this number negotiable? Can you draw a line through it, change it to zero, and insist, "I'm not paying that."?
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Car buying tips

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They will try to tall you about advertising "fees" and such, just say no.

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I've been meaning to ask about these.

When they draw up the sales agreement, they add up a column of numbers. The top number is the price of the car. The other numbers are such things as the extended warranty, the options, the tag and title fees, etc.

There's always an "advertising" fee there, usually $100-300. And the number is not written in by the salesman, it is already typed on the form.

Is this number negotiable? Can you draw a line through it, change it to zero, and insist, "I'm not paying that."?

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When I bought a car I told them I wasn't going to pay that. They said they didn't know if they could work around that. They kept me waiting an hour, came back and asked if I would pay it and when I said no they took it off. This was at a dealership that is local to you.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:19 AM
Mat Sklansky Mat Sklansky is offline
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My personal experience is that going through the internet is close to rock bottom. I hate to negotiate. For those who like to haggle, I'm sure this is incorrect. If you're prone to getting ripped off due to impatience, the 2 or 3 thousand this saves is pretty palatable.
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:17 AM
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My personal experience is that going through the internet is close to rock bottom. I hate to negotiate. For those who like to haggle, I'm sure this is incorrect. If you're prone to getting ripped off due to impatience, the 2 or 3 thousand this saves is pretty palatable.

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Internet shopping is great if you are buying new. There is a set manufacturers invoice that all dealers pay. Most sales reps prefer to switch this customer to used so we can make a little money. Used is much harder to price shop.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:40 AM
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My personal experience is that going through the internet is close to rock bottom. I hate to negotiate. For those who like to haggle, I'm sure this is incorrect. If you're prone to getting ripped off due to impatience, the 2 or 3 thousand this saves is pretty palatable.

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Internet shopping is great if you are buying new. There is a set manufacturers invoice that all dealers pay.

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Not exactly. The dealers receive “holdback” on the MSRP or invoice price. Basically it is a percentage of the sticker price paid back to the dealer by the manufacturer. It’s invisible to the consumer but when negotiating and the salesman says he’s “giving” it to you almost at invoice, just ask how much of a holdback he’s receiving and watch him blanch.

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incent...ack/index.html
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:17 AM
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Get an independent broker to get you the best deal.

Whoever is financing you should have some contacts in this regard.
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