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Old 11-28-2007, 12:49 AM
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winning the pot outright will outweigh the benefits of gaining an extra bet once in 4 or 5 times.

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I think a CR works virtually always, not "once in four or 5 times"

Also, the times we win the pot outright with a bet are usually the times that villains are drawing nearly dead against us.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:21 AM
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I prefer 4-betting the flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:14 AM
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I prefer 4-betting the flop.

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Why? Just because all your decisions are going to be easier afterwards [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]?
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:17 AM
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I prefer 4-betting the flop.

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Are you that 38/17/3.8 guy I see on-line?
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:11 PM
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I prefer 4-betting the flop.

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Why? Just because all your decisions are going to be easier afterwards [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]?

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Because that 3-bet by the pfr is more often weakness than strength. And even if it's strength, you avoid getting raised on the turn by a lot of them once you've 4-bet. The hand becomes infinitely easier to play.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:34 PM
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Because that 3-bet by the pfr is more often weakness than strength. And even if it's strength, you avoid getting raised on the turn by a lot of them once you've 4-bet. The hand becomes infinitely easier to play.

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Hmmmm. Thanks, I just replayed about a 1000 hands in my mind. Of course you're right.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:57 PM
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Online 3-6 game, folded to TAG MP who open raises. The LAGgy SB calls, and the I call with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Flop J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB bets, I raise, MP threebets, and we all call.

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB checks, what is my plan for the rest of the hand, and why?

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bet that card and see what happens. We don't want the pfr to check the turn with QQh.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:38 PM
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check raise the turn... if preflp raiser bets and sb raises teh turn i would fold with 2 coming to me..... If i get threebet on the turn i am calling down though...
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:06 AM
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I prefer 4-betting the flop.

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Why? Just because all your decisions are going to be easier afterwards [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]?

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Because that 3-bet by the pfr is more often weakness than strength.

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huh?
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