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How often do you mess up?
After a session I tend to look back at the biggest pots I lost, this is pretty common I'm sure.
When you're looking at this list, how often do you see hands you misplayed? Most of the hands I misplay are where I call a bet too quickly without thinking because my hand is 'too good to fold'. I don't stop to consider what my opponent would be making a bet of this size with. Are there people who look back at the list and the 10 biggest losers are all perfectly played coolers? It terrifies me that this might be the case. I've had the odd session where I've been totally satisfied with my game, but it's rare. |
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Re: How often do you mess up?
I'm pretty self-critical so I don't think I ever have a session where I feel like I played perfectly. When I play a hand that I thought through, as long as my logic is sound I don't beat myself up.
At the same time I realize sometimes the world just [censored] you in the ass and I would've lost anyway. |
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Re: How often do you mess up?
Yeti,
I've thought about this a lot. Basically this is what it comes down to for me. My goal is to play optimally This is impossible(obviously). Every session I will be upset with my play because it is suboptimal. Given this I have learned to still be critical of my play but not let poor decisions bother me as much as they used to. I'm not sure if this helps but just my 2 cents. |
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Re: How often do you mess up?
I play terribly. Luckily, so does everyone else.
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Re: How often do you mess up?
I'm happy if I stack off badly only 2 out of every 10 All In's. My averge is about 8/10 though.
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Re: How often do you mess up?
there's plenty of times where I regret how I played a hand immediately after it, not just because of results just from further thinking
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Re: How often do you mess up?
[ QUOTE ]
Yeti, I've thought about this a lot. Basically this is what it comes down to for me. My goal is to play optimally This is impossible(obviously). Every session I will be upset with my play because it is suboptimal. Given this I have learned to still be critical of my play but not let poor decisions bother me as much as they used to. I'm not sure if this helps but just my 2 cents. [/ QUOTE ] im in the same boat. i used to tilt ridiculously if I felt I made a poor play(s). Now i'm still very critical of my play, but realize that dwelling/obsessing on particular hands (the past, rather than the present)in a NEGATIVE manner is completely counterproductive and breeds monkey tilt. basically for me its like, everyone makes mistakes, you cant be succesfull without learning from them but you also have to move on and not let prior hands affect your actual mentality i think this is the sort of thing that halts development in a lot of players. some ppl just cant admit to mistakes/evaluate their play objectively pretty simple stuff but w/e |
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Re: How often do you mess up?
Usually a couple of big ones every thousand hands or so. Not always "messed up" though, lots are pretty close.
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Re: How often do you mess up?
When I'm multitabling, occasionally I just forget to think about a situation. Like, I'll be deciding whether to call or raise a river bet, and I'll think "Okay, well obviously calling makes sense here. Oh, but raising does too," and then I'll just choose one without bothering to reason it out.
I'd say this happens once every 300 hands or so. I'm really curious to learn how often other good players do this. But, I'm pretty sure people are pretty awful at assessing how frequently they do this stuff. |
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Re: How often do you mess up?
I'd like to hear from more of the ballas on this. I personally am terrible at playing my best, and I'm not talking about tilt at all (though I do that once in a while). It's more like what Stinger mentioned; almost immediately after certain decisions, I realize that had I thought about it just a bit more, I'd have picked a better play. I know this is about focus, and I'm seriously trying meditation as a route to focusing better, but in my case so far, this is slow going.
Anyway, I always add up the plays that I made that I know better than to make, but just didn't for whatever reason, in a session, and it's scary how much money I've given away like that. This is especially true, given how many of the decisions involve play on the river, when either me or my opponent is "drawing dead." And to be clear, I'm not talking about misreads; I mean mistakes GIVEN the read I had at the time. Bottom line for me: I play live poker 3 days/week, ~25 hours/week, with the odd trip thrown in where I play a ton (like last week in Vegas), and I have played 3 sessions since December that I am confident I didn't leave over 50 BBs on the table due to unforced errors. Looked at as a percentage of sessions, that means I'm batting like .125, which is acceptable to a Cubs fan, but otherwise gross. |
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