$10 - Take the pot now?

willwonka · #1 09-07-2007, 12:24 AM

No Reads...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2475
UTG+1: t1451
MP1: t3514
Hero: t1730
Button: t1285
SB: t1480
BB: t1565

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls t60 (pot was t90), Hero calls t60 (pot was t150), Button calls t60 (pot was t210), SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t270, 4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets t60, Hero raises to t200, Button calls t200 (pot was t530), BB folds, MP1 calls t140 (pot was t730).

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t870, 3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero is all-in t1470, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t1470 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t870

BradleyT · #2 09-07-2007, 12:27 AM

I like it only because on FTP when the board is suit blank suit blank the river will be suit about 90% of the time.

Otherwise, meh he probably only has 3-5 outs or maybe 8.

ADLinden · #3 09-07-2007, 02:41 AM

fold this preflop dude...

willwonka · #4 09-07-2007, 12:38 PM

Fold... Really?? I could argue for raising maybe... I don't think folding from CO with only 1 limper is right?

Am I way off?

justatrey · #5 09-07-2007, 12:48 PM

Folding pf is definitely the standard play.

jaydreb · #6 09-07-2007, 12:52 PM

Folding KQ in the CO in a 7-handed game seems overly tight to me unless you feel like you're at a tough table.

ADLinden · #7 09-07-2007, 03:11 PM

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Folding KQ in the CO after a limper in a 7-handed game seems very standard to me

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rakemeplz · #8 09-07-2007, 03:54 PM

I think overbetting the pot into two opponents only gets called when you are beat (well usually). That said I'm not sure what the best play is here.

kamel · #9 09-07-2007, 04:14 PM

Folding pf is not bad and safe and I would recommend it if you massively multitable. However, it's also a bit nitty, so just call-a-limper seems to be fine. Folding seems to be decent if aggressive players will still act behind you. If players behind you are very tight, probably a small raise (to t180-t200) is also an option as it puts the right amount into the pot pf for a TPGK hand and isolates the limper (with dead money from the tight blinds). If you do so, the limper should be such a one who respects cbets, otherwise don't raise.

I really don't like your flop-play combined with your turn play.

On the flop, you bet an amount that let yourself have a stack of about 1.5-2Potsize (dependent on how many villains will call) with just TPGK. If you want to protect your hand on the turn unless a nonscary comes, you should raise more on the flop, so you won't have to make an overbet or if you won't raise more on the flop, it might be better to check the turn through.

Playing it the way like you did, generally, leaves you with 1.5-2xPotsize left with only TPGK where you are committed, but better villains will only call you on the turn if they can beat you - what is a bad risk/reward.

JSH06 · #10 09-07-2007, 04:47 PM

I'd say folding pf is standard in a 9 man

As played, I'd just call the flop. I mean, what are you ahead of here that you think is calling a raise? QT? As played, check turn or bet like 500.

I don't really know how bad the $10 players are.