Analyzing stats for Finishing Positions

[squall]

What, if any, information about my play can be gathered from stats on my finishing positions? Are there articles written on this, or books that handle the subject?

Thanks in advance!

[iknowayuppynerd]

Sure; google it. It seems like it depends on the situations you went out on more than the position you went out on. If your push was AA vs KK every time, I'd say your ending hands say that's poker. If you were drawing to a flush and your opp doesn't give you odds to call but you do anyway (mistake!), well you see a weakness. This is so particularly if you make the same mistake over and over again.

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Sure; google it. It seems like it depends on the situations you went out on more than the position you went out on. If your push was AA vs KK every time, I'd say your ending hands say that's poker. If you were drawing to a flush and your opp doesn't give you odds to call but you do anyway (mistake!), well you see a weakness. This is so particularly if you make the same mistake over and over again.

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Googling these terms result in a lot of poker texts but none on the actual subject, at least I haven't found any at all.

Simply saying "it all depends on the situation" suggests that there's no information to be gathered from these stats. Is this really true?

[BradleyT]

What's your sample size? It probably needs to be larger to have any meaning.

[ymu]

You need a large sample to tell, but there are some patterns that seem to emerge from good strategy:

Bubbling fairly infrequently (compared to 3rd, 5th and 6th) - if you bubble too often, you may need to tighten up somewhere (on pushes or calls or both).

More 1sts and 3rds than 2nds suggests you're not just sneaking into the money and once there are playing to win. If it's too loaded towards lower places, you may be getting there shorter than need be (too tight pushing earlier) or not playing aggressively enough when you get ITM. If it's too loaded towards higher places, you may not be getting ITM as often as you should, but you are getting there with a dominant stack when you do.

You should also get the lower places relatively infrequently, if you're playing tight and letting others donk out early.

[squall]

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What's your sample size? It probably needs to be larger to have any meaning.

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Heh, I know [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Still an interesting subjets though, and one day my sample size will be big enough.

[BradleyT]

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What's your sample size? It probably needs to be larger to have any meaning.

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Heh, I know [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Still an interesting subjets though, and one day my sample size will be big enough.

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After 1000 games you probably make ITM 410-425 times. That's 5,000 - 10,000 hands of very short stacked poker. And in that few hands anything can happen. You could get AA 50% less often than you're supposed to when you're chipleader ITM . Your KK when you're 2nd in chips could be losing more than it's fair share. And on and on it goes.

[The Venetian]

1>3>2>6>5>4>7>8>9

[ymu]

^^Very sustainable. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[crfergu]

5>3>4>6>1>2>7>8>9

This is a bit more realistic. Thats a sample of almost 25k games for a winning player.