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Old 05-17-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

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yea if u want to get tricky u should be c/r'ing the flop, i wouldnt buy a turn raise here as nething strong and prolly 3 bet u

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did you read the HH?

ASpoker i really think this is a terrible flop call. this board isn't that scary. even if he has QQ you're gonna probably have to fire turn AND river to get him to fold it.
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

these never ever work for me, so i don't try them anymore.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

The flop float looks spewy. This board hits his range well. He's not usually going to just give up on the turn.

Raising the turn would be rediculous. It would turn a pretty profitable situation into a marginal to -EV situation.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

Guys keep in mind we have nearly 400 more behind after I call the flop, which is four PSBs.

Basically I think the flop call is going to be good if villain defines his hand on the turn somewhat. Do you guys think villain is ever firing a second barrel with QQ/JJ? Probably not, right?

Turn raise would be really bad. I doubt I have folding equity and it would kill my implied odds. My outs are very well disguised and he has AA/AK/KK almost every time IMO.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

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If you are going to float with air, you have to raise that turn.

As played you are pushing any river right?

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man u guys are too aggro
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

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Guys keep in mind we have nearly 400 more behind after I call the flop, which is four PSBs.

Basically I think the flop call is going to be good if villain defines his hand on the turn somewhat. Do you guys think villain is ever firing a second barrel with QQ/JJ? Probably not, right?

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You can't just be worried about the double barreling with JJ/QQ. There's also the problem about the times he plays to check raise the turn and even him check/calling the turn puts you in a horrible spot.

You're calling hoping he will do nothing but check/fold the turn, and I don't think much of his range takes that line.
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:32 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

what else does he have to do to show strengh? 3 betting oop, firing twice on a board that has most like NOT missed him? why would you wanna raise the turn in a spot where semibluffing brings like close to 0 fold equity and forfeit your chance to draw "cheaply"?? even tho i'm a limit player, i think the flopcall isn't that great with no pair/no draw and basically not the slightest showdown value.. but hell.. what do i know
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

lolaments

I play it the same and depending on the river you probably win this pot like a lot
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: floating RR pot, deep NL200

What is the plan if a blank hits on the river? Give up? Or bluff to the river check?
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:00 AM
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What is the plan if a blank hits on the river? Give up? Or bluff to the river check?

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define blank
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