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Old 11-03-2007, 07:32 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

who are grego777 and daurgman?


is it surprising that people with similar pre-flop stats have similar post-flop stats?
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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More than likely it's b/c Crazy Mike gave him information under the condition it stay private.

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...if that is true, he could simply say that.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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who are grego777 and daurgman?


is it surprising that people with similar pre-flop stats have similar post-flop stats?

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obviously FT alleges that they are accounts that use the same bot.
It was previously speculated that greggo was another account of hers earlier in this thread.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

i wasn't told anything about daurgman being connected here

but that account was very obviously a bot back when lip2lip and BobaLoca and all the other accounts that are accepted as bots were running. he had all the same characteristics as them.

when all the accounts were killed and daurgman was still standing i was pretty shocked

ive played him recently and he hasn't shown all the characteristics he used to
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

I think the PF%, W$SD% and AF's all don't tell you very much.
I have to think lots of heads-up players are in that range.

The other stuff I'm really not so sure. Would be interesting to get some input from other heads-up players as to how unusual they think it is for the 3 players to have such similar stats.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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who are grego777 and daurgman?


is it surprising that people with similar pre-flop stats have similar post-flop stats?

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Don't forget this is simply an extract of what I assume is a mountain of information. Obviously FTP isn't simply looking at stats, or else the information in the other FTP thread a couple of months ago about the supposed 1/2 NL FR bots would've come out with the accused guilty. But instead they were said to be innocent.

Again I'm looking forward to Mike's conclusion.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

If Full Tilt is banning people due to similar poker stats im about ready to withdraw.

I if i go threw poker tracker looking at winning players with large amounts of hands they stats all line up similar and you can find several people with the same thing.

There has to be more good evidence that can actually prove something
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

It would be nice if you could get permission to post more info. Even one or two more pieces of corroborating evidence might help. I think any info that would not give away Fulltilt technical and secuirity systems would be good if they have such info.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:51 PM
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If Full Tilt is banning people due to similar poker stats we should all withdraw.

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FYP
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

So looking at the stats Mike Haven has posted, sillysal's stats certainly do look similar to the other two players.

What I'd like to know is, how much MORE similar sillysal's stats are to these players, as compared to all other LHE players on FTP. Similarity is certainly not proof when there are millions of accounts on FTP, and where at least one of those accounts will randomly have stats similar to known bots.

If this is FTP's "evidence" then it's statistically very weak.
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