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Old 10-15-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

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There aren't many hands here you beat.
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SB raised preflop, cb the flop, check turn, push river which was 3/4 pot.

There are a ton of hands that could make sense with this line, the majority of which you beat. You can include AA/KK/QQ/JJ considering he raised preflop, bet as standard, checked the turn figuring only a worse hand would call at this point, and that he can get value on the river. Anyone with AA here is not folding in most spots.

55/66 reload....but folding this hand is criminal in the long run.

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Agree with this exactly, do not fold here.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

the only hands he beats that's shoving in this position are some kind of T with a weaker kicker. I don't think op are cc turn and shoving river. This is probably going to be a cooler, and I think just about everyone is snap calling this river. I just think there's something fishy with the villain's play here that makes me think he has a monster, not just an op. I also don't see too many people raising from the sb with many Tx hands.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

Did you even read my post? Why can't this be JJ+? That alone gives us odds to call...
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

How do you play AA or KK here if you are villan?
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

if I'm villain after I bet the flop and see a caller I would cc down to the river. I definately don't shove river, fearing he could have a T.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

One thing to realize, your stating its a shove. Its really only a 55% pot bet. You are getting 3-1 on a call on the river. You have to call in this spot. You are gonna be ahead way more than 25% of the time required. Folding is -ev.

Btw, if you have AA in this spot with the villan, you are missing value from KK/QQ/JJ if you dont put the rest in on the river like SB did, since those hands will check behind.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

Well I'm glad most people say call. I did, he turned over QcKc.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:35 PM
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Well I'm glad most people say call. I did, he turned over QcKc.

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Reload + Buddylist.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Tripple facing shove [25NL]

uh... snap call?
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