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Old 12-11-2006, 05:11 PM
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Id call with an A...are any of you folding an A here? Yes, I realize its for a chop 90% of the time.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:13 PM
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Id call with an A...are any of you folding an A here? Yes, I realize its for a chop 90% of the time.

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I appreciate the fact that you are not being results-oriented, but really? And how often do you expect to be winning the pot?
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:14 PM
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No WAY do 80% of the regular posters in this forum call that river shove with an A. I just refuse to believe that, bilbo. It's a very bad call to make.

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don't ignore the zeebo thm:

Nobody is capable of folding a full house on any street for any sized bet, ever. Don't fool yourself into thinking they can. I'm not even referring to NUT full houses (eg. board reads 29522, if your opponent has the loan 5, they will almost always call allin; if they folded, it was likely do to timing out or a misclick). Remember: full houses aren't too common, and after all, you might be bluffing!

People don't fold the 5 on a 29522 board, and they never fold the ace on a222, aqqq, etc board.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:16 PM
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Id call with an A...are any of you folding an A here? Yes, I realize its for a chop 90% of the time.

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I appreciate the fact that you are not being results-oriented, but really? And how often do you expect to be winning the pot?

[/ QUOTE ]not often, but I think bluff% here is greater than quad %
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:16 PM
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OP,

There is not likley to be a single one of the regs in this forum who would call your shove with an A. That's why I think the shove is read-dependent and a value-packed 3/4 pot is best.

The Zeebo Theorem is a good one, but obviously hyperbolizes and doesn't work here.

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thing is, i shove xx here representing the Q, or repping an A, so an A HAS to call some of the time
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:17 PM
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People don't fold the 5 on a 29522 board, and they never fold the ace on a222, aqqq, etc board.

[/ QUOTE ]Not sure if you were referring to me on this one, but no way do I call with a 5 on a 29522 board, and it would depend on the pot size on the AQQQ board.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:17 PM
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wow, I would never shove less than ace high, because of same reason I'm pushing.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:18 PM
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OP,

There is not likley to be a single one of the regs in this forum who would call your shove with an A. That's why I think the shove is read-dependent and a value-packed 3/4 pot is best.

The Zeebo Theorem is a good one, but obviously hyperbolizes and doesn't work here.

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thing is, i shove xx here representing the Q, or repping an A, so an A HAS to call some of the time

[/ QUOTE ]ding ding ding. This happens more often than quads, imo.
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:19 PM
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OP,

There is not likley to be a single one of the regs in this forum who would call your shove with an A. That's why I think the shove is read-dependent and a value-packed 3/4 pot is best.

The Zeebo Theorem is a good one, but obviously hyperbolizes and doesn't work here.

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thing is, i shove xx here representing the Q, or repping an A, so an A HAS to call some of the time

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Against YOU, yes. That's the biggest leak in your strat advice, tu: You're a good LAG, but most people are not!
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Old 12-11-2006, 05:19 PM
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wow, I would never shove less than ace high, because of same reason I'm pushing.

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ah but given stack sizes to pot ratio, i'm reverse zeeboing
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