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Old 07-16-2007, 08:36 AM
modnareno modnareno is offline
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Default Re: I have to improve my turn play...

Bet $21 on the turn (call any raise). Don't bluff the river, but bet $55 if you hit.

I don't think he folds an ace to you very often, but i think the turn bet is important to inflate the pot so you win a larger river bet when you do hit.
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: I have to improve my turn play...

Why not take the free card? I would bet this OOP but check behind IP.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:13 AM
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I shoved the turn and was called by AJo. I hit a flush on the river to stack him.

Really spewy against an unknown, i know, hence the post.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:18 AM
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Easy check imo.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: I have to improve my turn play...

Turn: Hero bets $22
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: I have to improve my turn play...

This guy isn't releasing Ax, which is a huge part of his range. Your hand is well disguised. Check the turn. He will probably lead any river with an Ace so you will get action when you hit.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: I have to improve my turn play...

42,

If you don't bet the turn, aren't you missing value when do you hit?
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: I have to improve my turn play...

this is player dependant. you arnt in bad shape although with some players you have no fold ev. they just wont let go. so against them take a free card and if you hit jam the river for as much as you think you can get. against a good player (ie thinking player), providing you have a good image, then a second brl here is good. if he calls and u miss then id consider a push. if he calls and u hit then vb or push.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:34 AM
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I shoved the turn and was called by AJo. I hit a flush on the river to stack him.

Really spewy against an unknown, i know, hence the post.

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THIS IS SUPER SPEWY, what made you decide to push all in so big way overbetting the pot? I am more likely to fold an ace to a normal bet than a push here since it looks so bluffy. If you mix this play in with big bets with monsters I guess this might be somewhat okay but I hate the huge overbet, it gives away your hand alot.
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:38 AM
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42,

If you don't bet the turn, aren't you missing value when do you hit?

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Depends on the villain. Hero does not have a lot of FE against an unknown with an ace here. If hero thinks villain can lay down a weak ace to a 2nd barrel then he shoudl bet.

I have found that what usually happens is that villain calls with any A, the rive blanks and hero is facing having to tripel barrel shove if he still wants the pot.
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