NL50: AQ in SB. I try donking for a change

[Baintz]

Unknown Soldier asked in 23act's well about thoughts on donking flop/turn/river and he replied it was useful for getting value out of good but not monster hands, abusing the fact that people will call lighter than they will bet on certain boards.

Since I very rarely donk, I'd thought this might be a good spot to try something new.

No reads on villain, I've been at table less than 2 orbits.

I'm usually 3-betting pre, but given I had no reads and he was UTG, I thought I'd just call here.
Pretty nice flop, and a safe turn unless he had T9 (unlikely), so I fire again on the turn. As I'm an unknown to him, I don't think he would float me on the flop and raise turn with any hand I beat, so I was planning on folding to turn raise. Given he just called turn, and river didn't really change anything, I fired again.

I felt completely unsure about this hand, but I think it was mostly beacuse opponent was unknown so I wasn't sure if he was slowplaying a monster, not being a unbeliever with 99/TT, or a complete donk with A5o.

Thoughts?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $55.64
BB: $56.16
UTG: $87.05
CO: $68.23
BTN: $80.86

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds

Flop: ($4.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.30</font>, UTG calls $3.30

Turn: ($11.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, UTG calls $7.00

River: ($25.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $13.00

[beavens]

maybe i dont understand the term, but where are you donking bets?

are you dumping this hand if he raises?

i'd prefer a check on the turn then valuebet the river.

[Antinome]

I think this is beautiful on flop and turn.

I c/c river because the draws that were chasing might now bluff with the 8 as a 'scare' card, but they probably won't call a bet.

[Baintz]

Well the only real draws are T9 (unlikely since he raised UTG), and KT. I thought it more likely he had an KQ/AJ/TT type hand and would look up the smallish river bet. He called flop fairly quickly, but definitely hesitated a bit on the turn (if there's anything in that timing tell, he could just have been multitabling).

If raised on flop, I'm probably 'calling and re-evaluating', but don't mind embracing variance and shoving, as I've been snapcalled by TT here before (it's Party [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

If raised on turn or river, I was planning on folding.

[Daniel LeClaire]

Looks good to me. I like betting the river too. Against an unknown we can't be sure he will fire a missed draw. We also miss out on a lot of value from weaker hands that will call but won't bet. Plus it allows you to control the size of the pot, somewhat.

[iwa]

I don't like donking with a hand that strong. I'm check raising here, you're giving him an opportunity to outplay you here by donking out the flop or draw out on you. I don't really like calling with hands like aq oop to a utg raiser.

[Capone]

Preflop: I dont like re-raising an utg open with aq here, nice call.

Flop: Nice bet

Turn: I bet more towards $9

River: I bet 18 or so.

[iwa]

calling oop with aq is not going to win you money in the long run.