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Old 07-29-2007, 02:54 PM
KJatl KJatl is offline
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Default 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

BB is running 20/11/3.88 over 205 hands. Decent TAG.

UTG is nothing special. No significant reads.
Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($50.65)
UTG ($20.80)
MP ($10.95)
Hero ($35.75)
Button ($48.15)
SB ($22.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $19.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds


Easy fold, yes? The results were rather funny though, any guesses as to their hands?
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Old 07-29-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

Calling utg's bet initally is good, but I don't think re-pops it here with anything you beat. Especially after utg shoves, insta-fold.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

Either fold preflop or raise to isolate against UTG
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

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Either fold preflop or raise to isolate against UTG

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I don't like the sound of playing a re-raised pot with an UTG raiser. What does he call here that we're ahead of?
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

I was BB in this hand. I'll add my thoughts once others have responded, and yes, you have to fold the flop after that action (I would have in your shoes) .
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

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Either fold preflop or raise to isolate against UTG

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I don't like the sound of playing a re-raised pot with an UTG raiser. What does he call here that we're ahead of?

[/ QUOTE ]I fold preflop here and think nothing of it.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:36 PM
KJatl KJatl is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

Baintz that's funny because you might be the first player I've come across at the 25NL tables on Bodog where I thought 'this guy's gotta be a 2p2er'.

But the results of this hand really floored me.
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

I like a fold preflop too.
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

Both me (BB) and UTG had AJ (mine was AdJd).

Here was my thinking on the hand.

Like you, I thought UTG was nothing special, and I see so many people c-bet multiway at Bodog nearly 100% of the time whether they hit or not that he didn't necessarily have to have a strong hand here.
I saw you as a decent TAG also, and figured you would 3 bet TT+ preflop, and would likely raise a set/2pair on that drawy flop with 2 others in the hand. I figured you called flop with hearts (I think you would raise with strong combo draw), OESD or a good Jack, or were floating UTG.
I hate calling here as then I'm OOP 3-way and hearts, K/Q/9 are all scarecards.

So my raise was to push you out (I figured you'd fold a lot of hands here) and either take it down now or get HU with UTG, where I possibly have the best hand, trapping the dead money.

I normally don't play TPTK so fast, but felt that UTG folds enough or calls with a worse hand enough (if he's calling with AJ, he's probably calling with KJ) to make it OK.

I tend to be a little reckless at Bodog NL25 though. I don't have PAHUD for it and there are so many players who felt top pair any kicker no matter the action that I went for it here and embraced the variance. Not sure if that makes it a good play though [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - flop TPTK - lots of action in 3 way pot

I fold PF
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