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#161
08-20-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
Ted Simmons finished in the top 20 MVP voting seven times while playing for horrible Cardinals teams. His offensive stats will for the most part exceed Posada's even though Posada batted for great offensive Yankee teams during the 'live ball era'. Both were below average defensive catchers. I think Posada should be far behind Simmons in the MVP line!
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#163
08-21-2007, 02:35 AM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
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[ QUOTE ] Jack you just lost your own argument. The average Prospectus score for CATCHERS IS 95.3. That means for an UNDER AVERAGE DEFENSIVE CATCHER to make the Hall he should be OVER THE AVERAGE. Posada is 15 pts UNDER it. Considering his age thinking these scores will improve a great deal is ridiculously wishful thinking. Im willing to wait and see however. If Posada hits .500 with a .600 OBP and 90 homeruns in his last two yrs I'l admit hes a hall of famer. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think you understand how WARP3 works. [/ QUOTE ] Its just above Warp 2 and just below Warp 4. The fastest speed the Intrepid Class Enterprise can go is Warp 9.
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#164
08-21-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
[ ] 1st ballot HOFer
[ ] probable HOFer [ ] borderline HOFer [X] above average player [ ] average player [ ] below average player
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#166
08-21-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
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That made me vomit. [/ QUOTE ] Yankee fan?
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#168
08-21-2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
This thread got ruined, but has anybody run Jorge through some of those Bill James HOF test thingys?
My thought is that he doesn't have nearly enough black ink, nor was his reputation ever good enough to make it, even though he might deserve it.
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#169
08-21-2007, 04:45 PM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
Dids,
all catchers fail black ink tests. Even Bench fails Black Ink, Gray Ink, and HOF Monitor.
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#170
08-21-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: Does Posada end up in the Hall?
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This thread got ruined, but has anybody run Jorge through some of those Bill James HOF test thingys? My thought is that he doesn't have nearly enough black ink, nor was his reputation ever good enough to make it, even though he might deserve it. [/ QUOTE ] I think someone did, but anyways I don't like those metrics, if you want to get a sense of if someone deserves to be in. it double counts a bunch of things that dont need to be counted. it does do a decent job of representing CW though
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