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Old 06-13-2007, 07:40 PM
phantom_lord phantom_lord is offline
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Default weird spot with qq

first guy is 20/12, button is 21/14.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($125.06)
Hero ($259.90)
Button ($109.90)
SB ($105.10)
BB ($149.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q , Q .
UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, Button raises to $32 <font color="#666666">3 folds </font>

shove/fold???
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: weird spot with qq

easy fold
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default Re: weird spot with qq

dont fold. for 100 bb's at this level you should be looking to get allin by the turn at latest, flop dependant
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: weird spot with qq

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dont fold. for 100 bb's at this level you should be looking to get allin by the turn at latest, flop dependant

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why?

original pfr is pretty tight, i'm assuming we have an ok image, so us pfrring a relatively tight pf is in the realm of strong pocket pairs and AKos, villain raising over that yet again is in the realm of AA, KK, and AKs and it's more along the lines of AA and KK since he'd often just push AKs
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:50 PM
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dont fold.

[/ QUOTE ]so wrong
Tight UTG raiser. Hero 3-bets. Tight BTN 4 bets. This is AA/AK 80% of the time and AKs 19% and trash QQ the other 1%.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:31 AM
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original pfr is pretty tight, i'm assuming we have an ok image

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I've been 3-betting a fair bit in this session, so my image isn't a good as it could be.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:33 AM
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I think you must drop this sir.
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:36 AM
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fold that shiz
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:11 PM
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ok, I was actually the button with 87s...

if people in the mps spot are only gonna be shoving aa/kk, this should ok to get away with once in a while right?
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: weird spot with qq

if your image was 3-betting light and the button is a good thinking player then i push this all day long

if he isnt a smart thinking player then i drop it, seems like he is good and might see this and 4bet steal

its alot closer than everyone is making it seem.
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