PokerRoom refuses to cashout US player

[CardSharpCook]

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What you have not responded to is why you simply cannot or will not mail him a check for money that you hold that is undisputedly his. You certainly cant deny that you have the ability to issue checks. Nor can you deny that issuing him a check for his money does not violate the provisions of the UIGEA in any way. I understand that the check will not be issued by a US bank and this will slow and to a lesser extent cost the player in conversion fees when he deposits it in a US bank. But he has already indicated that he is willing to accept that.

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Yes. This is what bothers me as well. It seems likely that PokerRoom has at least one consultant living in the US. How do they pay that guy? Send a check in the mail. What could be hard about that?

[DeadMoneyDad]

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What you have not responded to is why you simply cannot or will not mail him a check for money that you hold that is undisputedly his. You certainly cant deny that you have the ability to issue checks. Nor can you deny that issuing him a check for his money does not violate the provisions of the UIGEA in any way. I understand that the check will not be issued by a US bank and this will slow and to a lesser extent cost the player in conversion fees when he deposits it in a US bank. But he has already indicated that he is willing to accept that.

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Yes. This is what bothers me as well. It seems likely that PokerRoom has at least one consultant living in the US. How do they pay that guy? Send a check in the mail. What could be hard about that?

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The logic of this is inescapable!

Even e-pass has "operations" is south FLA. If they are facilitating such a clear flagrant violation of at least the spirit of the UIGEA by providing for the transfer of funds related to "unlawful internet gambling"; how the hell are they getting paid?

How are all the US pro sponsors of various on-line sites getting paid their cuts?

If one thing is clear, even the DOJ says individual players are not subject to criminal prosecution for playing on-line poker. The poker operators seem to want to use the law to keep the funds in the un-numbered accounts for as long as possible. Even a basic understanding of on-line poker economic and simple banking economics would tell you their is tremendous reason and quite a bit on money behind this scam.



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[Doc T River]

I think my whole view on this can be summed up by saying that the right thing is not always the legal thing and the legal thing is not always the right thing.

Pokerroom should do the right thing which is return the money.

[Doc T River]

Well, I cannot edit the above post so I have to make another post.

Another thing I find funny in all this is Mason's response. He said it bothered him since Pokerroom was part of the bonus program for non US players. Since the OP is a US player, why does it bother Mason on the basis he states?

Also, Mason seems to chatise Pokerroom for trying to comply with their view of the law, but he won't allow US players to take part in the bonus program due to legal issues.

It seems like Mason is trying to have it both ways. I am very interested in listening to Mason's views on this.

I guess I am a little upset now because I tried finding out why US players cannot take part in the 5 free books and the closest thing I can find is that Mason's lawyer advised him not to affiliate with any poker site that allows US players to play.

[Mason Malmuth]

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I guess I am a little upset now because I tried finding out why US players cannot take part in the 5 free books and the closest thing I can find is that Mason's lawyer advised him not to affiliate with any poker site that allows US players to play.

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You have it exactly right. If and when we can open things up to everyone we will certainly do so.

Also, we went to make sure that all the Internet poker rooms that take part in our Bonus Program are treating all our players well. Pokerroom has assured me they are working on the problem and hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Best wishes,
Mason

[Doc T River]

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I guess I am a little upset now because I tried finding out why US players cannot take part in the 5 free books and the closest thing I can find is that Mason's lawyer advised him not to affiliate with any poker site that allows US players to play.

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You have it exactly right. If and when we can open things up to everyone we will certainly do so.

Also, we went to make sure that all the Internet poker rooms that take part in our Bonus Program are treating all our players well. Pokerroom has assured me they are working on the problem and hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Best wishes,
Mason

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Thanks for the response and I hope I did not anger you. When you do good, I am the type who will let you know. When I think you have done bad, I am the type who is blunt.