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Old 07-22-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default QQ Vs. Nazgul @ 3/6

Villain is Nazgul, a 10/20 SH regular whom I've never played with. I assume he is a good, aggressive player. Why he is at 3/6, I don't know. He hasn't been very active so far (I don't think he's been at the table long) and seems to be playing seriously.

Oh, keep in mind this is full ring, so basically my Queens play like a pair of 33 or some [censored].

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MP1 ($564)
Hero ($722.25)
CO ($410)
Button ($806.85)
SB ($1441.85)
BB ($553.20)
UTG ($621)
UTG+1 ($615)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $30</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $24.

Flop: ($99) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $42</font>, Hero calls $42, UTG folds.

Turn: ($183) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($183) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $144</font>, Hero ??
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1) That flop bet looks too small to achieve maximum FE, ya?
2) The river looks like straight value-townage, doesn't it?
3) If we decide that he is valuetowning, do I have any FE with a shove? Q9 got there and so did a backdoor flush draw.
4) Assuming I am being taken to valuetown, would you ever shove? Q9 got there as well as backdoor hearts.

I really want to dump this river. He can't put me on QQ, but would he really bluff this river often enough for this call to be good? The board is pretty dry and I'm a tight player, although he might not know this. The ratio of worse vs. better hands that VB this river is completely [censored] for me as well.

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