1/2: 66 on rag flop oop

[spivey]

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99+/boat.

sometimes you mite see spades on river, but if hes good hes probably jamming spades on the turn.

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You really think jamming turn with spades is more EV than just calling, and taking away on rivers where villain checks? If Hero c/c's flop, and bet's turn, he seems to either have a weak hand or a really strong one. It shouldn't be too hard to occassionally steal from the strong ones.

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ya, not with NFD coz that probably has SD value. Heroes line looks so bluffy, and there arent very many hands that he donks the turn with that he can call a shove with.

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yeah, but the ones where he does we're pretty crushed. On the other hand, we can just bluff him on the river pretty effectively if he checks.

[loosbastard]

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Flop c/r turns your hand into a bluff, so do it with a hand with more equity vs his range.

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Yeah, I used to argue this to the death...but I've started doing it more often because a)we almost always have a hard time getting to showdown if he's any good and b)I just like c/r bluffing a lot. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Makes getting paid off when we actually have a set much easier too.