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#42
10-20-2007, 10:40 PM
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Re: 25-50 with a straddle
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[ QUOTE ] I think he might check out 2p2 once in a while, not sure though. I really wanted to fold river, but I thought the 1.5:1 ish was probably good enough to justify a call here (he might have a bunch of hands he tries to push me off a chop here). I thought he would probably CR or CF flop with AK, but maybe thats a dumb thought. Raising the river came to mind, but he'll never fold a king here I think. [/ QUOTE ] You chop with about 1/4-1/2 his range if he plays it in this manner. On the flop, q109 is right in your wheelhouse after cold calling pre. [/ QUOTE ] I always question this last claim. People often say that a 2-broadway type flop hits cold-callers ranges hard, but that really depends on how tight the cold-caller is. Considering that Strassa thinks folding 99 pre might have been best here, I would guess his range includes a lot more pocket pairs than broadway type hands. Or not... I don't really know how people play NL live. But online (with 100 BB stacks) I definitely think solid players are way more likely on 88-99 type hands here than QJ or JTs or something. Just saying... 
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#43
10-20-2007, 10:47 PM
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I am villian
i'll comment on the hand later...
couple of things that are relevant to the hand...i am more familiar with jason's game than he realizes. We have played together 3 or 4 times, one of which he remembers (not including once earlier in the week)...i also have read enough 2+2 to have an idea of who he is... the other thing i owuld point out is that this is the second time jason and i have played in a week - and that he is playing a lot tighter then i have seen him in the past...
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#44
10-21-2007, 11:28 AM
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Re: I am villian
hey rock i feel a real affinity with your writing style. it is like a combination of mine and my best friends, what my friend contributes is the high use of the "..."
i'd say fold like xxlebowski, and fold river too
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#45
10-21-2007, 11:30 AM
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Re: 25-50 with a straddle
8800 in pot. bet is 3500. So...if you call, you're risking $3500 to win $4400. Instead, why not raise to like $7500? Then you're risking $7.5k to win $12.3k. Is this guy ever going to call a river raise to chop on that board?
I actually like folding the best but fold > raise > call imo.
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#46
10-21-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: 25-50 with a straddle
Fold like a cheap suit. If these guys play as reckless as described, you'll have much better opportunities to take their money.
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#48
10-21-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: 25-50 with a straddle
Jason, I think I would fold most of the time in this spot w/o any strong read on the player. AK is a likely holding as well as any Kx combo hands. I don't know how villian views you but your cold call of his reraise shows some strength, so I could even see him check calling KK on this flop sometimes as well as any Kx combo hand looking for pot control.
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#49
10-21-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: 25-50 with a straddle
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8800 in pot. bet is 3500. So...if you call, you're risking $3500 to win $4400. Instead, why not raise to like $7500? Then you're risking $7.5k to win $12.3k. Is this guy ever going to call a river raise to chop on that board? I actually like folding the best but fold > raise > call imo. [/ QUOTE ] This is the kind of guy that would call to chop a certain % and also might bluff re-raise a certain percentage and also has AK a certain %, so not totally sure I like this line. But maybe
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#50
10-21-2007, 05:54 PM
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Re: 25-50 with a straddle
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8800 in pot. bet is 3500. So...if you call, you're risking $3500 to win $4400. Instead, why not raise to like $7500? Then you're risking $7.5k to win $12.3k. Is this guy ever going to call a river raise to chop on that board? I actually like folding the best but fold > raise > call imo. [/ QUOTE ] ill chime in and say i agree with this
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