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Old 10-15-2007, 07:12 PM
Mjafish Mjafish is offline
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Default 2nd set deep 200bb can I fold?

villian is unknown, he had generally been tight, and not too out of line, but: we have a lot of history, where i folded after i tried to c/r bluff him on the flop in a rr pot..

I doubled with AA vs his JJ in a 250bb pot, so we've been battling it out...

I limped QQ pf because the BB in the hand was raising to crazy amounts every other hand, but the BB was folding otherwise..


Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $414.40
BB: $93.50
UTG: $186.50
Hero (BTN): $420.55

Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, Hero calls $2, SB calls $1, BB checks

Flop: ($6) A Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="red">SB raises to $14</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($38) 2 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $42</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $128</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $398.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $270.40

River: ($834.80) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $834.80 Pot ($2 Rake)
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: 2nd set deep 200bb can I fold?

Oh my god. If BB is raising crazy amounts, he's probably gonna at least call a pfr. Like, you played this horribly man. I'd raise the flop the first time, and if I didn't I'd raise it the second time. You lose to KJ here, that's it. If SB can have AT or AhXh, you can't fold here. Also, I don't think I ever raise/fold the turn, so I dunno.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:28 PM
Mjafish Mjafish is offline
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Default Re: 2nd set deep 200bb can I fold?

perhaps I wasnt too clear:

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I limped QQ pf because the BB in the hand was raising to crazy amounts every other hand, but the BB was folding otherwise..

IE: IF I raised, the BB was folding.. i wanted to give him a chance to hang himself.


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I agree it probably wasnt the best play, but i had a reason for making it.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: 2nd set deep 200bb can I fold?

try to get some reads 200bb deep. really no excuse.

and no, in a limped pot given this action, meh. i mean, if his range is like strictly KJ, then whatever. call turn/call river if you want. sortve depends i guess. but ill see plenty of players going apeshit with TT/AT/AQ here if he's tight.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: 2nd set deep 200bb can I fold?

open limping QQ preflop is just terrible, period.

also, only raise the turn if you are looking to get the money in. you absolutely cannot raise/fold the turn. calling the turn is fine if you think sb would only play the nuts this way, and judging by his flop and turn line KJ is a pretty decent part of his range.

any reads on the sb would be very useful. this situation is extremely player dependant. if hes any good you should be able to rule out TT, AA and AQ as he would be raising these pre.
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Old 10-15-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 2nd set deep 200bb can I fold?

wow
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Old 10-15-2007, 08:03 PM
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wow

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yeah i butchered it pretty badly.
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