5-10 NL 9 MAX. confused with river play.

[polyviewness]

What line would you take against this guy.

He this was the first time i ever played against the villan, i had 36 hands on him at the time,
he was shaping out to be pretty fishy at 33.33 11.1 aggro of 3.



- $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:44:29 ET - 2007/07/05
Seat 1: Y ($820)
Seat 3: X ($337)
Seat 4: villan ($2,015)
Seat 5: Legend ($1,115)
Seat 6: Z ($824)
Seat 7: g ($1,032)
Seat 8: p ($479.15)
Seat 9: A, is sitting out
A posts the small blind of $5
Y posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ac Qs]
Villan raises to $20
Hero calls $20
x has 15 seconds left to act
p folds
Z folds
P calls $20
G folds
Y calls $10
*** FLOP *** [6h 9d Qh]
Y checks
Villan bets $50
Legend $50
P folds
Y folds
*** TURN *** [6h 9d Qh] [2s]
Villan bets $100
Legend calls $100
*** RIVER *** [6h 9d Qh 2s] [Ad]
Villan bets $200
donkey sits down
Legend has 15 seconds left to act

legend??????????? confused.. do i raise? what calls me? only AK would call. what if he re raises?

i know 33 hands is not much value.....

[Laetus]

I would definitley value raise. Just b/c a better player wouldn't pay of w/ worse doesn't mean this villain wont. Raise to perhaps $500 and fold to a push.

[Lucky Clubs]

If he raises to $500, can he really fold to a push with $445 left? Isn't he getting about 3.4:1?

[Borsig]

I would raise and call a push all day..

[ipokeder]

LOL what the [censored] raise and don't fold

[polyviewness]

ok ok ok ok just asking

[Laetus]

Mhe, okay... maybe don't fold against a shove, even if I think we loose like always we get good odds.

[Albert Moulton]

As played, call the river. I think you are right that only AK is a worse hand that might call if you raise. Of course, AK in the hands of a LAG and all the hands better than you might push if you raise. And I'd call a push if I raised the river. And since I don't want to call a push, I'd call the river. But I suspect he'd just fold if I raised since I think he has very little here most of the time and I'd like to see what it is. I think that information is worth it more than folding him out with a raise.

I'm not sure I like the call preflop. If he's 11.1 PFR then AQo is quite a bit ahead of his range. You have position on him. You don't want callers behind you. So if you don't fold preflop, then I'd reraise preflop to isolate him. You can fold if he 3-bets big. On this flop, if I'd reraised and he called, I might check behind if checked to because this LAGGY guy might very well c/r light, but donk bet the turn and river weak vs my TPTK.

So, fold or raise to isolate preflop.

As played, call the river.

[good2cu]

wow you full rings players are nits. this is a very easy shove imo.