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Old 12-01-2007, 03:05 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: i flop middle set str8 and flush draws are out. you play it

i really thought raisers c-bet was weak and small. so he has maybe an underpair or gut shot. im NOT afriad of a gut shot especially when i can redraw. no flat calling is definitely the best option because the button is my best chance of doubling through. by calling im saying i have a little something and so button now may say hey i can steal this pot or hehas to raise if he really does have a hand. once he raises ive got him bc any man sized raise committs him to call my shove. if he flat calls ill value bet the turn and river. as played he raised utg folded (i knew he was weak) and i shoved and won the maximum. when i hit a set i want to win the max i really don't care about draws sucking out if they do god bless them.
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:24 PM
Sherman Sherman is offline
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Default Re: i flop middle set str8 and flush draws are out. you play it

So you "knew" button was going to raise you. WTF. Sure you line is optimal if you know that button is going to raise. But how do you know button is going to raise? He was getting great odds in position PF to call. He could have any number of cards here.

This just seems really results oriented to me. If you flat call and he calls and the turn brings a flush card, UTG checks, you bet and button shoves (a pretty realistic result) you wouldn't be posting this.

Sherman
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:50 PM
J.A.K. J.A.K. is offline
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Default Re: i flop middle set str8 and flush draws are out. you play it

I've gotten myself into trouble eking out extra value on coordinated boards with my sets. But this is against a single villain. With more than one opponent and this flop, I call here 0% of the time. Adding 30% to your starting stack is a good thing. I'm probably just overbet shoving the flop.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: i flop middle set str8 and flush draws are out. you play it

Raise PF.
Raise flop.

What kind of buy-in is this from?
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