FTP 50/50: Flopped set on UGH river

[fsoyars]

No reads except that villain is the tourney CL. Line check and river thoughts pls.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t80/t160
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t8332
UTG+1: t2378
Hero: t2390
MP2: t7670
MP3: t15962
CO: t8700
Button: t4966
SB: t7090
BB: t2260

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t400</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t640)</font>, 4 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1040, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t550</font>, MP3 calls t550 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1590)</font>.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2140, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2140, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 is all-in t15012</font>, Hero?

[Pants Optional]

way too small a flop bet. make it at least 900 and be all in by the turn

as played please shove turn

[ForRealDD]

Hero checks, MP3 is all-in t15012, Hero folds

[xdeucesx]

Does anyone dislike shoving on the flop? Either way there is no way you should be checking this turn. As played shove turn get called by Ax and profit.

[tomek322]

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way too small a flop bet. make it at least 900 and be all in by the turn

as played please shove turn

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[YBravo]

Yeah, have to shove the turn with that stack. I thought the flop bet was fine, though.

I guess you have to fold the river, although he could be doing this w/ two pair. The problem is that's the only thing you beat right now.

[mflip]

Flop bet is fine but shove turn.

[JoeSchmo]

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way too small a flop bet. make it at least 900 and be all in by the turn

as played please shove turn

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You guys are nuts. Just over 1000 in the pot an you have to bet 900. We have a set here. The flop bet is fine. Shoving turn is fine. Sometimes checking turn is fine too. He's often going to shove his crappy hand and you double up.

Everyone's yelling at you because
A. He checked behind on the turn
B. The nastiest card in the deck came on the river (ok any heart sucks)
C. He went allin on the river.

That's quite a parlay and I'm willing to occasionally slowplay and gamble that won't happen. As is, I think you have to fold the river.

[Pants Optional]

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way too small a flop bet. make it at least 900 and be all in by the turn

as played please shove turn

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You guys are nuts. Just over 1000 in the pot an you have to bet 900. We have a set here. The flop bet is fine. Shoving turn is fine. Sometimes checking turn is fine too. He's often going to shove his crappy hand and you double up.

Everyone's yelling at you because
A. He checked behind on the turn
B. The nastiest card in the deck came on the river (ok any heart sucks)
C. He went allin on the river.

That's quite a parlay and I'm willing to occasionally slowplay and gamble that won't happen. As is, I think you have to fold the river.

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no, youre nuts

look at that board. flush draws, MOST hands that would call a raise hit this board somehow, and thats dangerous when many hands have draws. oh wait, youre right, we have a set, who cares about the board texture. lets bet tiny so he can chase draws!

that advice is so bad on this board

[tomek322]

The point is not bettign the turn is bad. If he was on any legitimate draw, it was a combo draw, whether FD with gut shot, pair and FD or SD. So he is calling the turn push getting 3:1 thinking he has more outs than he does. We check the turn, and the river bricks. He may fold for the thousand.