Week 10 Rank'em

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1. Kansas
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon

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I'm not sure how you can justify KU at #1 considering the best team they've beaten is 6-4 Texas A&M by 8.

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because the Jayhawks have played more than Ohio State has

I will have the math up on my blog soon

there is no reason to put Ohio State ahead of Kansas other than preseason rankings

NO REASON

[BobJoeJim]

Now now, MT2R, don't get carried away with the all-caps. I recognize your point, but there *are* reasons to put OSU #1, just as there *are* reasons to put Kansas #1. I'm not sure where I stand on it yet, and am looking forward to your numbers as always, but I don't think it's clear-cut in either direction.

Pedantically yours,
BobJoeJim

[lastchance]

Sagarin predictor, philsteele's +/-, and LVSC all have OSU way above Kansas, so... I think there's a reason OSU is ranked higher. It's not just dumb [censored].

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1. Ohio State (10-0) 1 2823 0.9993 1 1493 0.9953 1 99 0.990 0.9949 1
2. LSU (8-1) 2 2640 0.9345 2 1393 0.9287 2 96 0.960 0.9411 3
3. Oregon (8-1) 3 2590 0.9168 3 1376 0.9173 3 92 0.920 0.9180 5
4. Kansas (9-0) 5 2322 0.8219 5 1241 0.8273 4 88 0.880 0.8431 8
5. Oklahoma (8-1) 4 2518 0.8913 4 1330 0.8867 7 74 0.740 0.8393 6
6. Missouri (8-1) 7 2111 0.7473 7 1143 0.7620 8 72 0.720 0.7431 9
7. West Virginia (7-1) 6 2291 0.8110 6 1222 0.8147 12 60 0.600 0.7419 7
8. Boston College (8-1) 8 1836 0.6499 8 951 0.6340 6 81 0.810 0.6980 2
9. Arizona State (8-1) 9 1720 0.6088 9 946 0.6307 5 84 0.840 0.6932 4
10. Georgia (7-2) 11 1651 0.5844 10 927 0.6180 9 62 0.620 0.6075 10
11. Virginia Tech (7-2) 13 1500 0.5310 11 829 0.5527 10 61 0.610 0.5645 11
12. Michigan (8-2) 15 1332 0.4715 13 770 0.5133 13 49 0.490 0.4916 12
13. Connecticut (8-1) 16 1137 0.4025 16 568 0.3787 10 61 0.610 0.4637 13
14. Texas (8-2) 12 1540 0.5451 14 757 0.5047 18 27 0.270 0.4399 15
15. Florida (6-3) 17 1079 0.3819 18 529 0.3527 15 47 0.470 0.4015 20
16. Hawaii (8-0) 10 1677 0.5936 12 807 0.5380 NR 0 0.000 0.3772 14
17. USC (7-2) 14 1404 0.4970 15 706 0.4707 23 16 0.160 0.3759 19
18. Auburn (7-3) 18 975 0.3451 17 551 0.3673 17 28 0.280 0.3308 16
19. Virginia (8-2) 21 486 0.1720 21 259 0.1727 14 48 0.480 0.2749 23
20. Boise State (8-1) 19 747 0.2644 19 368 0.2453 22 19 0.190 0.2333 22
21. Clemson (7-2) 20 493 0.1745 20 318 0.2120 16 30 0.300 0.2288 25
22. Alabama (6-3) 22 437 0.1547 23 174 0.1160 20 23 0.230 0.1669 17
23. Penn State (7-3) 26 178 0.0630 25 105 0.0700 19 24 0.240 0.1243 NR
24. Tennessee (6-3) 24 251 0.0888 24 114 0.0760 24 15 0.150 0.1049 NR
25. Kentucky (6-3) 23 288 0.1019 22 197 0.1313 26 4 0.040 0.0911 NR </pre><hr />

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Wow so much for USC squeaking into a bcs game. USC was ahead of UF in the BCS, loses to Oregon, while UF loses to Georgia, and 3 loss Florida somehow jumps them a couple weeks later. What a joke. Wins over Cal and ASU are going to have to count for a lot, but I doubt the voters give USC any love for a Cal win given how they've dropped off the map recently.

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The ASU vs USC winner is virtually a lock for the Rose/Fiesta Bowl.

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Let's see. Oklahoma beat one top ten team in Sagarin's top 10 and another in his top 30. USC hasn't beaten a top 30 team. Stanford (3-6) is worse than Colorado (5-5) according to his rankings (78th vs 43rd). So, based on that, Oklahoma cannot currently be considered as bad as USC.


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Well, they're not.

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1. Kansas
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon

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I'm not sure how you can justify KU at #1 considering the best team they've beaten is 6-4 Texas A&amp;M by 8.

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because the Jayhawks have played more than Ohio State has

I will have the math up on my blog soon

there is no reason to put Ohio State ahead of Kansas other than preseason rankings

NO REASON

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How about that their defense has been dominant all season, hasn't given up more than 17 points in a single game and ranks #1 in the country in both scoring defense and total defense. They've also scored at least 20 in every game also which means that if you match up the offense from their worst offensive game with the defense from their worst defensive game, they still don't lose. Meanwhile, if you matchup Kansas' defensive performance against Nebraska or K-State with one of the weak offensive performances, they've got a loss right now.

How about the fact that OSU beat Washington, Purdue, Penn State, and Wisconsin all by at least 16 points (all Top 50 teams according to Sagarin) while the best team Kansas has a double-digit win over is #71 Nebraska.

I'd even go you one better and say the "ONLY" reason to rank Kansas as the #1 team in the country is if you believe that Kansas State is legitimately the 17th best team in the country (like the Sagarin predictor does).

I don't quite buy that. They've got an explosive offense that can run up the score on a weaker opponent, but they're not balanced enough to be a legitimate Top 20 team. Top 40? Sure. Top 30? Maybe. Top 20? Definitely not. Outside of Kansas State, Kansas has beaten no one as good as the upper-tier teams on Ohio State's schedule and as such, I see no reason to anoint them as the #1 team. Even Sagarin has them #2, #2, and #6, behind Ohio State in every category.

[BigSoonerFan]

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1. Kansas
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon

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I'm not sure how you can justify KU at #1 considering the best team they've beaten is 6-4 Texas A&amp;M by 8.

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because the Jayhawks have played more than Ohio State has

I will have the math up on my blog soon

there is no reason to put Ohio State ahead of Kansas other than preseason rankings

NO REASON

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Sure there is. OSU handled Purdue and Penn State handily, of which both teams are much better than anyone KU has played.

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1. Kansas
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon

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I'm not sure how you can justify KU at #1 considering the best team they've beaten is 6-4 Texas A&amp;M by 8.

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because the Jayhawks have played more than Ohio State has

I will have the math up on my blog soon

there is no reason to put Ohio State ahead of Kansas other than preseason rankings

NO REASON

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M2TR- In a hypothetical, what do you set the line in a OSU- Kansas neutral field match?

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1. Kansas
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon

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I'm not sure how you can justify KU at #1 considering the best team they've beaten is 6-4 Texas A&amp;M by 8.

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because the Jayhawks have played more than Ohio State has

I will have the math up on my blog soon

there is no reason to put Ohio State ahead of Kansas other than preseason rankings

NO REASON

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Agree 100%.

My results-oriented rankings:

1 (tie) OSU/KU
3 Oregon
3.1 LSU
3.5 Oklahoma

My sklansky ranking":

1 Kansas
2 Oregon
3 OSU
4 Oklahoma
5 LSU

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M2TR- In a hypothetical, what do you set the line in a OSU- Kansas neutral field match?

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Kansas -2.5