NL 200 - JTs

FinalPot · #1 09-20-2007, 04:51 AM

PokerStars 200 NL Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks & Stats
BU ($383.60)
SB ($385.35)
BB ($216.65)
UTG ($257.35)
CO ($197)
Hero ($200)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, 1 folds.

Flop: ($18) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $24, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($66) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero ???

opp is unknown .. not sure what to do on the flop and turn.

Kapten · #2 09-20-2007, 05:02 AM

I don´t want to play big pots with middle pair weak kicker so I would fold turn to his check raise. What do you put him on when he check raises?

MakeMuuney · #3 09-20-2007, 05:06 AM

I think raising preflop is fine, so is cbetting since Ax hands are a big part of your range. I think you can't call his raise on the flop though. Even though it is min-raise, you most likely have to improve to win the hand in which case you are not even sure if you're ahead.

No reads given I'd fold flop. As played you gotta fold Turn eventhough his bet seems really weak.

Raising his turn bet to get him to fold might work against a thinking player with stats. But since he mini check-raised flop i don't give him credit for being a good thinking player.

6471849653 · #4 09-20-2007, 07:53 AM

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What do you put him on when he check raises?

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That's just about it. Calling it needs a good reason, and the reason was the 2x raise (I don't think the 2x raise is generally a bad play but it depends, if one can get $12 with little risk and maybe $20 on the turn, considering milking and limit holdem comparable odds for taking the chance of a suckout, it being better than the opponent folding), but considering the check raise and the board type vs. the preflop raiser, small blind cold call, and likely a more solid brand of a game (than e.g. 400nl) and having just an MP with a weak kicker that one could in cases fold even in limit games, if not putting the opponent on a bottom pair or a draw.

manupod · #5 09-20-2007, 11:02 AM

I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

solids · #6 09-20-2007, 11:06 AM

Against an unknown, I don't like your flop call here. He check minraised you -- fold and wait for a better spot/read.

Jay Riall · #7 09-20-2007, 11:15 AM

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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

HoldEmNewby · #8 09-20-2007, 11:17 AM

meh i'd fold the flop against an unknown

solids · #9 09-20-2007, 11:54 AM

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I fold to the flop c/r unless I have a read telling me I shouldn't.

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QFT. I check behind a lot aswell.

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Huh? You check behind on this flop?

jk3a · #10 09-20-2007, 11:56 AM

check behind or fold to the flop raise