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Old 10-05-2007, 09:01 PM
T0ne D0wn T0ne D0wn is offline
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Default 4bet the flop?

No read. I just started playing this site so I am often readless. Especially because PT/ace hud does not work with it.

Stacks
I have 2k
SB has $600ish

6max 5/10
Preflop: I raise UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to $40, 3 folds and SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($80)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $80, SB reraises $160, Hero...?

Do you like re-reraising or just calling? How about a minraise?
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

yuck i would usually insta-muck without a read cause this line always owns me if i don't
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Old 10-05-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

i would probably call here and then fold the turn. he might shut down, you might spike a K/club. i don't think folding is bad though and if you didn't have the backdoor flush draw i'd much more inclined to do that.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

You definitely can't 4bet the flop.. his small raises are creepy and probably adding value to a better hand.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:35 PM
Paul B. Paul B. is offline
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

Just shove.

Also, I hate blanket statements like this.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

my vote is to shove, because u have the nuts and he is a 60bb fish. Folding is probably lower variance tho
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:16 AM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

With 100bb's this would be a dicey spot and I would probably call/evaluate.. With 60bb's though just get the money in.
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:45 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

Shoooooove, short stacks should be considered weird by default, thus our laws on 3betting in pots do not apply.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

Echo the last three replies
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: 4bet the flop?

if he had minreraised i'd shove or call always

but the fact that he added $10 to his reraise makes me think that folding is reasonable
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