100NL - Flopped set - is checking turn here horrible????<>

[WC3V]

Villain is decent running at 20.8/14.4/4.33 over 440 hands.
I got the feeling he was floating me light at times. I guess the standard is to fire turn again, is a check here, obv. looking to CR AI horrible here?????

Having said that, is the river double check the right play given we now expect him to bet a missed draw and value bet a weakish king he might have flat called on the flop?

Cheers

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $100
SB: $99
BB: $39.55
Hero (UTG): $166.60
CO: $333.40

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, BTN calls $4, SB folds, BB calls $3

Flop: ($16.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $11, BB folds

Turn: ($38.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($38.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

[Fletcher19]

the turn check is fine if you think he is floating light but you have to bet the river. His river calling range is far wider than his river betting range

[SpecT]

do you seriously think hes floating u in a 4way pot when theres still a guy to act behind him?

I'd just bet bet bet

[KhalynYohrk]

Screw the cr vs this villain, get your vbets in on turn and river.

[WC3V]

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do you seriously think hes floating u in a 4way pot when theres still a guy to act behind him?

I'd just bet bet bet

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You make a valid point that was considered at the time. However GIVEN the 3rd player folded and we are heads up on the turn, I expected him to semi-bluff a lot of his mediocre holdings.

[martijn]

If the turn paired I think it has its merits, so that he's drawing to a worse hand(flush).
However now there are quite a few draws out, and you really dont wanna let them draw for free.

[Nielsio]

More on the flop, more on the turn, more on the river.

[sgepower]

if you think he's floating you quite often , a turn-checkraise isn't a bad idea .
But pls bet the river if he checked behind on the turn.

[WC3V]

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if you think he's floating you quite often , a turn-checkraise isn't a bad idea .
But pls bet the river if he checked behind on the turn.

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Thanks for your input. What price do you make it on the river? Also what type of hands do you feel villain will call with but won't bet after I've shown 2 streets of weakness.

I guess my thoughts were he would surely bet a busted draw and any king, so I guess I'm losing value against a PP and an 8.

So in summary is the range of his calling hands, ie, kings, 8's and PP's greater than the range of his betting hands ie. missed draws and kings???

Appreciate the clarification.

[4_2_it]

Bet the river. Your hand could also be interpreted as a missed draw that villain can snap off with any decent PP.

I'd be betting every street for value, especially since it was a 4-way flop. Villain has a K or a flush a lot of the time. He will call turn bets with both, so why no get some value. If the river was the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] how you feel about giving this guy infinite odds to hit his draw?