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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
Has anyone ever not liked Benyamine?
I really hope this thread doesn't devolve into 10 pages of moronic discussion about the Doyle hand. It's just a really tough spot for Doyle with what I assume were 500k+ stacks and only 30k'ish or so in on the turn. Doyle's read was right, just a tough spot so deep and I don't think he should be faulted. |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
Doyle had the right read. Unfortunately, he read the wrong player. As all the books about tells say, don't trust your read on a very bad player, because they may be honestly deluded about the strength of their hand. Doyle had the worst hand that still beat Jamie's hand, Jamie could just as well have had a higher flush.
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
Doyle read him correct, Jamie felt superstrong deepstacked with his flush. It's either play for stack or fold, he knows Jamie will put in another bet on the turn no matter what. Whoever thinks Doyle played that hand wrong is a donkey at best. His hand was like ace high in that situation and he got fooled by the man who fooled himself into believing he had the nuts.
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
Doyle had the right read. Unfortunately, he read the wrong player.
QFT. You can only put a guy on what he thinks he has. |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
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Doyle's read was right [/ QUOTE ] No, apparently it wasn't. Generally, when your read is correct, you are going to call or raise when you have the best hand, not fold. It's hard to say his read was correct when he gave away the chance to win hundreds of thousands of dollars in a situation where his opponent was drawing dead. I'm not going to say it was a terrible unforgivable mistake to fold there, but it wasn't the "right read." |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
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[ QUOTE ] Doyle's read was right [/ QUOTE ] No, apparently it wasn't. Generally, when your read is correct, you are going to call or raise when you have the best hand, not fold. It's hard to say his read was correct when he gave away the chance to win hundreds of thousands of dollars in a situation where his opponent was drawing dead. I'm not going to say it was a terrible unforgivable mistake to fold there, but it wasn't the "right read." [/ QUOTE ] Bit of semantics here I think. You're right his read of what exact hand Jamie Gold had was off, but thats not really what hand reading is about. Doyle read Gold as being strong, and he was. |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
Fantastic ep, I usually like Antonio, but the end was a total WTF moment.
Hopefully the rest of the season is this good. |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
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[ QUOTE ] Doyle's read was right [/ QUOTE ] No, apparently it wasn't. Generally, when your read is correct, you are going to call or raise when you have the best hand, not fold. It's hard to say his read was correct when he gave away the chance to win hundreds of thousands of dollars in a situation where his opponent was drawing dead. I'm not going to say it was a terrible unforgivable mistake to fold there, but it wasn't the "right read." [/ QUOTE ] Alright, this guy has no clue how to play deep stack NL holdem. Of course Doyle's read was right. My friends and I were watching the episode and as soon as Jamie gave his speech about how it was time for him to pull off a really big bluff on Doyle, I turned to them and said Doyle is going to fold. This is because Jamie sounded ridiculously confident and Doyle only had 30k invested in the pot. If he thinks there is a high likelihood that Gold has a higher flush it is a clear fold to avoid putting in an additional 450k drawing dead. Doyle is sitting at a table with Guy, Gold, and Farha, clearly he thinks he can find a better spot eventually. Granted this is a great spot too and if it had ocurred further into the session I am sure doyle would have pushed, but early on it is hard to see Jamie as actually bluffing with the speech he gave. |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
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[ QUOTE ] The more I see of David Benyamine, the more I like him. It seems like he's always smiling and having a good time. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Ah, I get it, it's his cavalier attitude. |
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Re: High Stakes Poker thread (11/5 - 500k buyin - Spoilers expected)
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The more I see of David Benyamine, the more I like him. It seems like he's always smiling and having a good time. If he's in a heads up pot, he'll talk about the hand just as casually as if he was discussing the weather or something. It's pretty funny when you consider the amount of money that's in the pot. It would seem like you'd want to clam up (unless you're Jamie Gold) and try not to give anything away. I love his attitude and the way he plays though. I also like the way he says "flush draw." That's ballsy to fire a third bullet of 80k on the turn with no pair, no draw, and 7 high. I like it. Could never do it, but I like it a lot. [/ QUOTE ] I agree, Benyamine seems to make remarkable reads and always say the right things to his opponents during the hand. Jamie put Benyamine on an overpair and he (Jamie)was going to bluff if a dangerous card came off on the turn. I would have loved to see how the hand would have played out had that happened. |
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