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Old 10-07-2007, 07:37 PM
kev123 kev123 is offline
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Default Any different lines, other than 4bet flop ??

Villain is quite new to the tbl, he is running at 56/21/3 over 60 hands.

Can anyone suggest any other lines other than 4bet on the flop.. which I guess may have taken the pot although I`m not sure as he has a pair & a gutshot lol

Is my line really bad & for what reasons, I really thought after his raise on the flop trips was a big part of his range.

Seat 1: UTG ($358.58)
Seat 2: CO ($197.00)
Seat 3: BTN ($224.64)
Seat 5: <font color="#C80000">Hero</font> ($494.57)
Seat 6: BB ($54.00)

<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> posts small blind, $1.00
BB posts big blind, $2.00

Dealing to <font color="#C80000">Hero</font>:
4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG calls
CO folds
BTN calls
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> calls
BB checks

Dealing flop: (Pot is $8.00)
7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> bets $8
BB folds
UTG raises to $32
BTN folds
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> calls

Dealing turn: (Pot is $72.00)
9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> checks
UTG bets $72
<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> is all-in $460.57
UTG is all-in $252.58

Dealing river: (Pot is $857.15)
Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


Showdown: (Pot is $857.15)
UTG has
J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="#C80000">Hero</font> has
4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG wins $719.16 (Profit: $360.58)
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:42 PM
YouCantEscape YouCantEscape is offline
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Default Re: Any different lines, other than 4bet flop ??

I would not 4bet here as both of you are pretty deep. So I would call the flop and c/c the turn. The 9 is a ugly card. It takes your straight outs away as villain might have a higher straight already.
You might though be ahead and you have some flush draw outs. So I would call the turn and fold UI to another big river bet. If you hit your flush you can get it in on the river.

Btw: Do not post results plz
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:31 AM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: Any different lines, other than 4bet flop ??

this would be a 3bet, not a 4....


meh why not?
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:51 AM
whiterice714 whiterice714 is offline
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Default Re: Any different lines, other than 4bet flop ??

idk, i'd probably discount your straight outs actually, sure they might be good but i'd rather hit the flush... i personally dont like the one card bottom end of the straight that much... this is a limped pot too no reason he can't have J in his hand...



not so sure i like the turn, you're folding literally zero hands that beat you... &amp; i think all of the hands you beat... i think only way you get called is by sets, obv trying to pair the board...
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:48 AM
KhalynYohrk KhalynYohrk is offline
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Default Re: Any different lines, other than 4bet flop ??

Shoving the turn is wack
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Old 10-08-2007, 11:14 AM
kev123 kev123 is offline
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Default Re: Any different lines, other than 4bet flop ??

After thinking about this hand some more , I also really dislike my turn shove, I think c/c is the best line, then folding to another large bet on the river.

If I make my flush on the river as I`m OOP is it right just to lead for 2/3 pot ? ( Anyone like an overbet shove given villains stats ? ) , as the board would then be to scarey &amp; even nut straight is going to check behind ?


Also at how many BBs deep do people stop 4betting this on the flop in general ?
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