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Old 09-17-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default 1-2 live semi deep AA

my image is tight and by far the tightest at the table. table is loose and small raises frequently.

effective stack 323

UTG limps
UTG+1 limps
UTG+2 limps
MP1 raises to 6
Hero has A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and raises to 31
MP3 folds
CO calls
Button folds
SB folds
BB calls
UTG calls
UTG+1 folds
UTG+2 calls
MP1 folds

5 handed to the flop (164)
flop Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB checks
UTG checks
UTG+2 bets 75


Hero??? (292 left)

villain is semi loose and likes to play lots of cheap pots. hes been fairly active and closed out preflop action getting ~5:1
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

Not a great board, you can raise it to 3x his bet and take it down now risking equal to about one bet on turn because hes probably just gonna call anyways,call and play passive , calling one more bet at most unless no scare cards hit on turn and river but still might be behind, this can spew a lot of chips if your not careful or fold because you think he hit a set of 10s or 7s, whats wrong with folding AA when a player fires into you like this, a good player will definately play his set fast on a draw board like this, whats wrong with folding ya know and if hes bad enough to play qx this fast or you've seen him doing this I can see an argument for raising flop. But since you have 3x bet someones first position raise this is so unlikely, he could possible have a set right off the bad or AQ , KQ..So the best bet is to raise or fold, calling will lead to so much trouble because people are so caught on value betting turns when 2-8 hit on turn which is over half the deck which in ur case it could be that a set or if a really bad player two pair.
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Old 09-17-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

that's such a weak bet into you with a pot that size and so many opponents. I think you gotta be worried about at least one other opponent out there but the stacks are awkward w/ such a big pot, b/c any raise really commits yourself. so its not like you can raise/fold to a shove from someone else b/c you'll be putting in half your stack (and thats with a miniraise on the flop) I'm assuming you wanna get this AI, yea? I'd probably just shove the flop cause all your other options suck.

ehh... maybe call flop, shove over safe turn?

tough spot
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

i typically just raise/call. overpairs are the nuts live.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

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i typically just raise/call. overpairs are the nuts live.

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This is because we see less then 1/2 the hands we do then when we are on computer? pfffff pits
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:20 AM
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i typically just raise/call. overpairs are the nuts live.

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This is because we see less then 1/2 the hands we do then when we are on computer? pfffff pits

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Old 09-17-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

ARRRRRRRR INNNNNNNNNNNNNN LLLDDDOOOOO
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

at the table, i pretty much always shove this. looking at it from my computer, this is probably a fold. Not a fun spot. Whatever you do, don't just call.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:28 PM
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at the table, i pretty much always shove this. looking at it from my computer, this is probably a fold. Not a fun spot. Whatever you do, don't just call.

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Old 09-17-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: 1-2 live semi deep AA

ok well with action left behind me in a 5 way pot i didnt want to shove 150BB's with one pair, so i opted to call hoping to slow him down and see what others did behind me

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Hero calls
CO folds
BB calls leaving himself 55$ behind
UTG folds

Turn (389)
5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks
UTG+2 insta shoves
Hero (217) ????????????
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