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Old 01-22-2006, 07:35 AM
Jouni Jouni is offline
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Default QQ on flop J44

UTG was VP$IP 54%/PFR 0 (10 hands), BB just joined game.
Would you have done something differently?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB
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Old 01-22-2006, 07:41 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

um.. it doesnt seem too bad to me, raising the turn is an option i guess?

whats interested me more is how someone has gotten a VPIP of 54% after 10 hands? i mustnt understand how that stat works
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Old 01-22-2006, 07:49 AM
Jouni Jouni is offline
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

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whats interested me more is how someone has gotten a VPIP of 54% after 10 hands? i mustnt understand how that stat works

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Oh, mistype, it was 13 hands.
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:34 AM
FUJItheFISH FUJItheFISH is offline
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

jouni,

i would have raised the turn. hu i just call.
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Old 01-22-2006, 08:58 AM
Wex Montana Wex Montana is offline
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

*grunch*

Would have raised that turn, trying to make BB fold his possible draw...
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Old 01-22-2006, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

I like the flop raise. BB may be betting a jack or FD. who knows what utg has if those stats are accurate.

Turn is a blank so I think you should bet here too.

River is an auto raise.

nh.
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:15 AM
OrianasDaad OrianasDaad is offline
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

Grunch

His line is weird enough that I play it the same way. He might have a four, but I've seen bad players play jacks and flush draws this way. Naturally, you have no fear raising the river.

Do take some notes in this hand on his holding, and what might have been going through his head during the play. It should pay dividends against this opponent in the future.
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:25 AM
OrianasDaad OrianasDaad is offline
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

You aren't folding a flush draw by offering 5-1 on the turn (i.e, you can't protect your hand) plus given the action there's a reasonable chance that you will get 3-bet by UTG. A flop-to-turn stop and go from a loose and passive player usually indicates a fairly strong hand.

Your overpair is good enough to call down with, but not to raise with when an apparent loose-passive player is making some tricky plays.
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

grunch

On the flop it looks like our Q's are behind. If your against a 4 you only have a few outs. I would fold when villian bets the turn.

LOL I suck [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 01-22-2006, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ on flop J44

I think I would raise that turn also and probably call down if I get 3-bet. If the hand makes it to showdown, make sure you see what that guy had so you can take some notes on that turn donk he made and what it meant.
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