Stud 8 - Nice-sized pot, did I miss some bets?

[7n7]

3rd St. - Should have reraised? Seeing as how live my cards were and I was up against 2 highs?

6th St. - I caught a blank, should I have led this street?

7 Card Stud High-Low ($3/$6), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 3: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds

4th Street - (4.67 SB)

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 3: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls

5th Street - (5.33 BB)

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___raises

6th Street - (17.33 BB)

Hero: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 3: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

[Alchemist]

On 3rd street I could be persuaded either way although reraising is probably correct since you likely have >33% equity here.

On 6th, there's no way I bet out. 5th just got capped after you paired you door card and they don't care. It's pretty unlikely they think the K helped you. There's only one card left to come and you'll have to fold a lot of rivers. Catching two pair probably isn't good enough to win here.

[Micturition Man]

A 3rd street raise would be great IF it didn't eliminate anyone.

However if the players are competent I would expect the Q to 3-bet and the J to fold, which is a big loss.

Also incidentally your hand is not very live with a 5 and a 2 out.

And no value in leading out 6th as Alchemist said.

[7n7]

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A 3rd street raise would be great IF it didn't eliminate anyone.

However if the players are competent I would expect the Q to 3-bet and the J to fold, which is a big loss.

Also incidentally your hand is not very live with a 5 and a 2 out.

And no value in leading out 6th as Alchemist said.

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Granted they're not totally live, but seeing as how I was against 2 obv. highs, any A,2,5,7,8 gives me a 4-card low going up against what could only improve to a 3-card low (but fairly certain, they have high pocket pairs).

And pairing wouldn't be completely awful as I don't think they hold any of my cards which could possibly allow me to back into a high.

Is this bad thinking on my part?

[Micturition Man]

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A 3rd street raise would be great IF it didn't eliminate anyone.

However if the players are competent I would expect the Q to 3-bet and the J to fold, which is a big loss.

Also incidentally your hand is not very live with a 5 and a 2 out.

And no value in leading out 6th as Alchemist said.

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Granted they're not totally live, but seeing as how I was against 2 obv. highs, any A,2,5,7,8 gives me a 4-card low going up against what could only improve to a 3-card low (but fairly certain, they have high pocket pairs).

And pairing wouldn't be completely awful as I don't think they hold any of my cards which could possibly allow me to back into a high.

Is this bad thinking on my part?



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No you're right, it's a great spot to be against two high hands.

I was just pointing out that your hand is not really that live, as I think you said in your original post.

[SweetLuckyMe]

I like calling 3rd, then jamming 4th and 5th. If diamonds weren't so dead I'd definitely like re-raising 3rd. I'd also want at least one bet going in on 6th.

[7n7]

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I like calling 3rd, then jamming 4th and 5th. If diamonds weren't so dead I'd definitely like re-raising 3rd. I'd also want at least one bet going in on 6th.

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I failed to even notice the diamonds during the play of the hand. Bad 7n7, bad 7n7.

[goofball]

Another nice thing about waiting until fourth to start jamming (other than slowing down when you catch the 9s) is that more not you'll have the best relative position, and a chance to let the J call 2 bets one at a time.

[Andy B]

I might raise third, but I'd play it about the same.